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Access point license count in Netsight

  • 1.  Access point license count in Netsight

    Posted 11-28-2017 10:02
    Hi,

    We are deploying many sites for one of our customer and we want to add access point (controlled by a V2110) to netsight console for monitoring needs.

    In the Netsight Licensing capacity, we have 25 devices and 250 Access point capacity.

    When we add an access point to the console (ping_only profile) the device is identified as an access point (device icon with little wave) but when we hit the 26 devices count on the console, the system warn that the license capacity is over.

    Controller is managed and discovered by the console and wireless manager so the access point list is known by Netsight.

    Do we add the access point with the wrong method ?

    Why access points added aren't count from access point license ?

    thanks for your reply !


  • 2.  RE: Access point license count in Netsight

    Posted 11-28-2017 10:05
    If you add the AP this way it counts as an device.

    Solution = don't add the AP, just add the controller

    The controller manages all APs and is able to forward the events to XMC.

    -Ron


  • 3.  RE: Access point license count in Netsight

    Posted 11-28-2017 20:55
    Hi, Add one video, How to use Discover to identify network devices.
    https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/articles/Solution/Extreme-Control-Center-How-to-use-Discov...

    Best regards,


  • 4.  RE: Access point license count in Netsight

    Posted 11-29-2017 07:31
    hi,

    Already know that controlled AP doesn't support SNMP, that why we added them with profile.

    my concern was about the license count for the access point. How it work ?

    because my ap are recognize as AP (wireless icon) but count as device and that doesn't sound logic to me.

    So how to have ap counted form ap license ?


  • 5.  RE: Access point license count in Netsight

    Posted 11-29-2017 07:51
    You add the controller to the EMC and the APs are then visible in the Wireless tab - with the license you've installed you'd have up to 250APs in this view.

    Systems that are listed in the > Network > Devices are counted as a device and use up a device license = don't add APs as a device.




  • 6.  RE: Access point license count in Netsight

    Posted 11-29-2017 08:17
    Ok I understand.

    if we plan to use local radius authentifcation from AP to NAC Gateway, we will be forced to add ap as device ?

    Because its seems that NAC Manager only display device listed in console and not the access point discovered through controller.


  • 7.  RE: Access point license count in Netsight

    Posted 11-28-2017 10:05
    to elaborate...

    there is no SNMP agent running on the AP = you can't manage the AP from a NMS (ping is just reachabilty)

    Just manage the controller and the controller wlll tx events to the NMS in case a AP went down, you are also able to query SNMP counters that way.

    -Ron


  • 8.  RE: Access point license count in Netsight

    Posted 11-28-2017 10:05
    Just to add to this, Extreme Management Center uses a different communication method to sync the Wireless Controller and get information on the attached access points to monitor them though the "Wireless" tab in Extreme Management Center.

    If you click the "Wireless" tab you should see the controllers and Access Points.

    If not, the most likely cause is the SNMP profile assigned to the controllers doesn't have the correct login credentials. Part of the process is XMC will SSH into the controller and gather configurations though CLI.

    Check out this article:

    https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/articles/How_To/How-to-setup-CLI-crentials-in-Netsight-Con...

    Then, make sure and collect device statistics for the controller:

    https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/articles/How_To/How-to-setup-interface-and-device-statisti...

    Thanks
    -Ryan


  • 9.  RE: Access point license count in Netsight

    Posted 11-29-2017 08:17
    You don't need to add APs as device in this case as well.
    Wireless controller will act as an authenticator between Radius server and supplicants.


  • 10.  RE: Access point license count in Netsight

    Posted 11-29-2017 08:17
    When you user site configuration with local RADIUS authentication, the authenticator is moved to the AP, not the controller. (as you can see in the screenshot REN1AIR000x are APs Name)



    but it this case, if AP are counted as devices in NMS, the licensing price will be huge (customer got around 300 AP on multiple site)

    I hope there is a way to make the AP count from AP license count and use local radius authentication.

    We need this design to deliver local authentication (local NAC Gateway& Active Directory) because of multiple factor:
    - bad WAN links causing authentication stale or failure
    - some remote site with over 2000 users with lot of connection/disconnection (app testing purpose)