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netsight 6.3.0.162 topology manager


Userlevel 2
Hi All,

I have downloaded the latest version of netsight 6.3.0.162. with evaluation license.

The problem I could not find the Topology manger in console nor in one view. It should be in the "Tools" menu in console interface, But I can't find it there nor anywhere else.

Anyone have an idea if there is a change related to this version of Netsight



Thanks in advance,
Husam

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Userlevel 6
Hello Husam, In 6.3, Topology manager is deprecated unless upgraded from an older version.
The Oneview Maps should be used instead, as there is broader support for more Extreme and third party platforms.
They disabled topology manager by default. I believe the plan is for everyone to use the maps provided in OneView. There is however a way to turn topology manager back on, you might just need to check the release notes for the location where you can turn it back on.
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Mike Thomas wrote:

Hello Husam, In 6.3, Topology manager is deprecated unless upgraded from an older version.
The Oneview Maps should be used instead, as there is broader support for more Extreme and third party platforms.

Thank you. it was useful tools. is there any way to activate it again?
Userlevel 4
Mike Thomas wrote:

Hello Husam, In 6.3, Topology manager is deprecated unless upgraded from an older version.
The Oneview Maps should be used instead, as there is broader support for more Extreme and third party platforms.

Why has topology manager been deprecated before all of its functionality is included in the oneview maps? I do not see spanning tree overlays for one. Oneview is also no good for creating quick temporary maps.
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Mike Thomas wrote:

Hello Husam, In 6.3, Topology manager is deprecated unless upgraded from an older version.
The Oneview Maps should be used instead, as there is broader support for more Extreme and third party platforms.

Decided to oneview maps again for a few minutes. It has a few cool features but it is nowhere near as useful as topology manager. I discovered a switch I needed to SSH into and it can't be done from oneview. I don't like having to go in and out of edit mode to make changes to the map. One wrong click and the page with all your edits are gone. Saying it tactfully, Oneview maps needs a lot more work. Don't take the old version away before fixing the new version.
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Mike Thomas wrote:

Hello Husam, In 6.3, Topology manager is deprecated unless upgraded from an older version.
The Oneview Maps should be used instead, as there is broader support for more Extreme and third party platforms.

Sorry I am on a roll but Extreme really needs to realize how bad Oneview maps is. In topology manager I can right click on a device and see tons of information about it. I can quickly see tables displaying neighbors, port info, OSPF, spantree, VLAN,etc. Oneview opens another tab and then the information is not displayed in a helpful manner. After a few clicks there is a long line of tabs that have to be closed. In the 30 or so minutes I have been trying oneview (again) I have accidently closed out the maps more than once by clicking the wrong thing. I understand Oneview maps may work well for wireless and it looks pretty but it is almost useless for quick device and network troubleshooting.
Userlevel 6
Mike Thomas wrote:

Hello Husam, In 6.3, Topology manager is deprecated unless upgraded from an older version.
The Oneview Maps should be used instead, as there is broader support for more Extreme and third party platforms.

I have forwarded his concerns to Product Management.

If there are any outstanding technical issues you wish to address with Oneview maps, please open a case with the GTAC.

Thank you.
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Mike Thomas wrote:

Hello Husam, In 6.3, Topology manager is deprecated unless upgraded from an older version.
The Oneview Maps should be used instead, as there is broader support for more Extreme and third party platforms.

Thanks for the feedback and speaking up on this Curtis.

As Eric confirmed below, our product management and dev teams hear you loud and clear.
Userlevel 4
Can you right click on a device in left pane and select "create topology map?" That brings up the topology manager dialog too.
Userlevel 6
Here is the link to enable again.
Keep in mind, support for it will be limited moving forward.

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/articles/Solution/Netsight-Topology-Manager-is-not-enabled...
We were discussing this at our office.

Are there plans to add the "click to ssh/telnet" option into the OneView map?

We figured topology manager was easier to make this work with because it was actualy running from your PC apposed to making it work from OneView which is web based.

Thanks
Userlevel 6
David Coglianese wrote:

We were discussing this at our office.

Are there plans to add the "click to ssh/telnet" option into the OneView map?

We figured topology manager was easier to make this work with because it was actualy running from your PC apposed to making it work from OneView which is web based.

Thanks

David, we cannot discuss potential roadmap request or features. If you wish to open a feature request we can do so, which would be forwarded to product management.
Userlevel 1
Thank you all for the feedback on this. We are working on moving functionality to OneView and are currently also working to streamline workflows. We'll take this into consideration in future releases.

Thanks,
-Eric
Userlevel 2
Hi,

topology managers spanning tree overlay is one of the most important features on working with maps. Would be great to see this in oneview maps!
Userlevel 4
I have customers that are "full-time" users of Topology Manager and they are concerned about these missing features (VLAN and Spanning Tree overlays are the most requested).

I think Maps will be great, but we need these features.

-Leo

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