setup vlans one for ip's for phones and the other for ip's for the computer


hello I am seeing a lot of different information about setting up vlans. i would like to setup vlans on extreme switch summit 250e 24port. I would like to have as much ports in the vlans as possible, is there an article or video that steps me through this?

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Hi Neil, Before we can decide how many ports go in each VLAN, you will need to know how many phones and how many computers will be connected to the switch. The X250 has two 1G ports to use for uplinks (with 100M ports elsewhere), so you don't want to bottleneck your users. QoS on your uplinks may be necessary to prevent problems. How big is your overall deployment? -Drew
Drew C. wrote:

Hi Neil, Before we can decide how many ports go in each VLAN, you will need to know how many phones and how many computers will be connected to the switch. The X250 has two 1G ports to use for uplinks (with 100M ports elsewhere), so you don't want to bottleneck your users. QoS on your uplinks may be necessary to prevent problems. How big is your overall deployment? -Drew

Hi Drew, thanks for responding, the switch is a 15101 summit x250e 24-10/100, 2 shared 10/100/1000 with 2 GBIC Ports. Its a small branch office moving to a new building, there are about 12 phones and 10 pcs,the avaya 5610 phone is a voip phone with a switch on the back, the pc's can connect to the phone for data. so only about 15 connections to the switch including network printers and wap. Its an old switch, I hope I can get in with the default p/w if not would have to hard reset the device, I notice the db9 serial connector is male, I'll have to try to putty into the device.
Hi Neil,

For this kind of setup, generally the IP Phones are connected to the switch and computers are connected via the Ethernet port of the IP phone.

If this is the setup, You need to tag the ports with voice vlan and untagged them with Data.

On the up-links too, voice should be tagged and data untagged.

Thanks
Syed Arshad
Syed Arshad wrote:

Hi Neil,

For this kind of setup, generally the IP Phones are connected to the switch and computers are connected via the Ethernet port of the IP phone.

If this is the setup, You need to tag the ports with voice vlan and untagged them with Data.

On the up-links too, voice should be tagged and data untagged.

Thanks
Syed Arshad

Hi Syed, thanks for responding, yes I am familiar with the voip phones with the switch on the back. and worked with the extreme switch a long time ago. ok so tag ports for example 5 through 24 with the 801.2q for the voice and also untag them as well for the data? this is going to be fun, I probably wont use the uplink very small office only about 10 end users. but I'll tag it anyway : -) currently I am getting the ip addresses from my firewall, I will have to setup another subnet for the phones, so on the switch I will have to setup a port management ip address for both? that is how the switch will know to get ip address for one or the other subnet?
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Hi, Neil!

In the Internet there is a lot of information about configure Extreme's switches to work with VoIP.
Foe example - http://www.devconnectprogram.com/fileMedia/download/5a44e4b4-d5c4-4b51-8a8e-58bdb7326fc6

Avaya give a lot of examples - config guides.

Thank you!
Alexandr P wrote:

Hi, Neil!

In the Internet there is a lot of information about configure Extreme's switches to work with VoIP.
Foe example - http://www.devconnectprogram.com/fileMedia/download/5a44e4b4-d5c4-4b51-8a8e-58bdb7326fc6

Avaya give a lot of examples - config guides.

Thank you!

thats just the thing! way to much information out there to comb through and I am not looking for anything eleberate! its a straight forward setup. Its just a 15101 summit x250e 24-10/100, 2 shared 10/100/1000 with 2 GBIC Ports. with only 10 connections to the switch. But thanks for the feedback!!
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Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.
Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

Hi Voss, thank your for your feedback, how come half the ports? I was thinking 5 through 24. I have the virtual switch, I've been playing around with that but it is limited.
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Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

Based off the information you provided earlier half the ports would be plenty for your pcs and phones. Sounds like you may be planning on having some APs in the mix as well. Are these going to be put into there own VLAN? All of this configuration can be changed at any point to allow for growth or changes in the network.
Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

actually no the a/p's will be on the same subnet as the pc's
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Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

Hi Neil,

The configuration of the switch depends solely on how you would like to leave the switch configured. If you would like to be able to just plug in a device and have it work then you can configure all the ports with the configuration Syed mentioned. If you would like to configure the ports as something is plugged in then only configure the ports you are planning on using. The first option will only work if you plan on having only two vlans, one for phones and one for PCs, printers, and APs (Data vlan).
Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

right i was just wondering why half the ports were mentioned. will be configuring it where just need to plug in and ready to go.
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Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

Because you mentioned 12 phones above.
Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

lol got it, do you have a link with a walk through to get me started, I have the virtual switch installed, I can play around with that. I dont think i would have any problems getting onto the switch, probably first time accessed from first setup, I hope its the default p/w, can you send link for reset instructions just in case I may need them.
Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

question, what can be done if the usb (dongle) that has the license key cant be found? is that a reach out to avaya for replacement? how quickly can I get the replacement?
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Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

Are you referring to the license key for the switch? If yes, we can retrieve it from our system with the serial number. One of us can contact you directly to get that so you don't have to post it here.
Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

yes, ok so once i get the s# and give it to avaya then can give me the key info and I can manually punch the license in the ip office?
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Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

I'm confused here - what license are you worried about not being able to find?
Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

so sorry, disregard the switch is attached to the avaya ip office 500 that usb stick is not attached to the computer that has the ip office admin installed.
Patrick Voss wrote:

Hi Neil,

I second Syed on his statement. From what you mentioned earlier it looks like you will want to add about half the ports to voice and data vlan. If you are looking for some more specific instructions on how to do something I would suggest exploring the following link:

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/

I hope this helps!

There should even be an article on how to default the switch. Unfortunately none of the switches have a default button or button combination.

hmm I am doing a search in the extreme kb https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/ for setup vlan etc. I did not get a hit for setting up vlans?
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Hi Neil,
You might benefit from reading over the Deployment Jumpstart guide. It covers all the basics. It will help you get logged in and shows you how to create VLANs.

Here's a knowledge article on how to create a VLAN in EXOS.
Want your VLANs to be able to route between each other? Here's how to enable inter-VLAN routing.
good deployment jumpstart guide. I and testing on the extreme virtual switch so this error might be related to that. "error cant change primary ip address, please unconfig the primary ip address on vlan first" researched that error no hits
disregard got the command to unconfigure vlan.
it seems the extreme vm is limited none of the port commands works, like show ports, getting error no matching ports found. Is there some kind of online switch I can use?

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