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End users are disconnecting every 10 minutes and getting connected automatically , is there any default timeout period for Access Point or end users.......

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Userlevel 7
Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron
Ron wrote:

Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron

I have changed idle (pre) to 120 from 5 and (post) to 60 from 30 , will it help me out if earlier settings were causing the issue.....
Userlevel 7
Ron wrote:

Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron

I don't think so, I never run into any troubles with the default.

https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/articles/Q_A/How-to-adjust-the-client-timers-on-the-Identi...
Userlevel 4
Ron wrote:

Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron

Hi Team,

Once after change configuration, what is the client status now ?

Thanks,
Suresh.B
Ron wrote:

Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron

will ,take a day time to know the status..... to conclude ......
any other reason why the users are getting disconnected frequently.

where can i enable the station events on controller , there are no logs of station events , says station events disabled on controller
Userlevel 7
Ron wrote:

Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron

What kind of authentication is running PSK,802.1X PEAP ???
And please let us know which controller version you are running and the AP model.

-Ron
Userlevel 7
Ron wrote:

Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron

How to turn on station events... https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/articles/How_To/How-to-enable-wireless-client-reporting-on...
Ron wrote:

Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron

there's no authentication (open) , we have C5210 controller with 9.21 version and AP model is 3805i
Userlevel 7
Ron wrote:

Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron

With those settings a client should not be dropping from the wireless. You should contact the GTAC so someone can review your configuration settings. Have your tech support generated and ready before you reach out. https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/articles/How_To/How-to-Collect-a-Tech-Support-File-From-a-...

Also please document the following:
-How many wireless clients are seeing this issue
-Are they all the same type of client device or multiple device types
-If it's only the same device types, document the card type and driver/software versions you are using
Ron wrote:

Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron

Hi Doug

All wireless users (mobile/tablet/laptops, etc )are reporting the same issue..... this is what is happening, the client stays connected to SSID forever no issues in that, issue is he will be not able to access internet after few minutes, he has to dissconnect from SSID and connect back to SSID to resume the internet usage....this happens every 10-15 min
Userlevel 7
Ron wrote:

Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron

Thank you for the follow up data points, I would still suggest logging a ticket with GTAC for further troubleshooting. I don't have all the pieces to the puzzle yet to identify what the root cause of your issue is. There are a lot of different reasons this could be occurring.
Ron wrote:

Hi,

the only default timeout is the idle timout of 30minutes.
That is if the client doesn't rx/tx data for 30minutes the controller deletes the client session.
That normaly only happens if the client leaves the coverage area for min.30 minutes.

You'd find the timeout in > VNS > WLAN Services > WLAN Service XYZ > Advanced >
It's the post idle timer in the below screenshot...



If the controller deregister a client you'd find the reason in > Logs > Station Events > put the MAC of the device in the field in the upper right to filter.

Here a example of my client after I've left the coverage area...
08/27/15 09:18:16De-registration9C:FC:01:1C:01:D6---D8:84:66:02:DF:E0--VNS[SecureAccess] Cause[Idle timeout]

-Ron

Hi, Have you found the reason for that behaivour?? Why were clients being disconnected?? Thanks

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