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Adobe Flash end of support 2020 - WING GUI 5.9.x/7.x


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There is a GUI migration plan based on FLASH for other technologies such as HTML5 before the end of support by Adobe and most browsers in Dec / 2020. Or we will suffer the same type of nightmare that exists with JAVA-based GUIs that were never updated again.

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If you have problems with end of life in WingMan you need to change pepflashplayer.dll to the older version. You need to go to C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\extreme-wing-manager\app-1.0.1\resources\app\src\flash\win32 and replace pepflashplayer.dll to version 26.0.0.131 x64 downloaded from eg. dll-files.com

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Yaep, cli works, i’m developing some ASCI code to show customer floor plans and topologies…

 

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It's a little embarrassing when the software that was supposed to fix the problem, shows the problem itself. Our customers are totally "thrilled".

 

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You can configure Flash to work for certain sites by using mms.cfg. See for example the VMware documentation on how to set it up

EOLUninstallDisable=1
EnableAllowList=1
AllowListPreview=1
AllowListUrlPattern=https://FQDN_Of_The_Target_System/

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Hi guys, I can confirm we are still working on switching away from Flash and intend to do so before the cut off date. We don’t have a firm ETA that I can share as of yet, but when we do have some delivery dates set I will do my best to share with you all. Please feel free to check in on this thread, or with me directly at community@extremenetworks.com, for updates. 

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Correct. Development team is working on this. We are scoping the effort and it will be done in 2020 well before year ends.

Hi!

 

That’s funny.

WingMan shows Flash EOL message.

Any updates?

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Hi,

ExtremeCloud Appliance (XCA) supports HTML5 and adopts WING APs 75XX, 76XX, 84XX, 85XX series as well as new Wi-Fi 6 but as I know it is not using MINT protocol for that so there are limited features supported

Small customers like having the Wing APs where they don’t have to buy a controller, so using the VC on the AP is the issue here.  The GUI on the VC on Wing APs still uses Flash.

Exactly

But it’s not only about VC, but VX9000 and NX controllers.

It’s very critical and many companies watching at all technologies provided and conclude how much serious Extreme Networks. It is becoming increasingly difficult to convince that it’s not a big deal that we still stuck with FLASH.

Aviv

 

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If you have problems with end of life in WingMan you need to change pepflashplayer.dll to the older version. You need to go to C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\extreme-wing-manager\app-1.0.1\resources\app\src\flash\win32 and replace pepflashplayer.dll to version 26.0.0.131 x64 downloaded from eg. dll-files.com

Thks man!

It’s works!

OMG!

This is Deja vu of Java with WING4 :grimacing: .

I do not want it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are working on a new version of WingMan as we speak, this is obviously a high priority. The current target release is for tonight, barring any further setbacks. You can also consult this guide for updates as well: https://extremeportal.force.com/ExtrArticleDetail?an=000092008

 

Thanks for hanging in there with me everyone, I’ll keep you posted as I hear more. 


Do your developer still work on a HTML5 GUI and if so is there a timeline? Or is WingMan the final solution for this issue?

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Hi everyone, I have some more information this morning. This is the official statement regarding WiNG-Manager: 

Now that Adobe’s version of Flash is no longer supported, customers can download WiNG-Man V1.0.4 starting at 12:00 noon EST on January 13, 2021 to continue managing your WiNG environment. For those that have previously downloaded WiNG-MAN, you can directly access the new version on our support site. For those who have not already downloaded WiNG-MAN, please contact our GTAC for access.

We thank you for your patience and apologize for any issues this may have caused.

Please Note:

@Danny Schaper & @Aviv Kedem  - As far as I know the HTML GUI is still in progress, however your sales engineer (SE) will have better information on the roadmap and possible ETAs. If you’re not sure who to reach out to for your SE, please let me know and I’ll email that information directly to you. 

You can configure Flash to work for certain sites by using mms.cfg. See for example the VMware documentation on how to set it up

EOLUninstallDisable=1
EnableAllowList=1
AllowListPreview=1
AllowListUrlPattern=https://FQDN_Of_The_Target_System/

 

James, this is very interesting. 

A quick test on this worked for me to access an old vcenter flash based.

I will test test in wing environment.

 

 

OK, this did the trick for me.

Tested with version 5.9.4.1. Internet Explorer only.

 

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Folks,

We have in July. 

Extreme have any updates for HTML5 support on VX9000?

 

@Aviv Kedem Did you enter full address with https://

Got the same issue with old Wingman unitl entered https://ip_address

Unforunately I’ m unable to get new wingman to test.

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Totally agree. 
I love WING products and I deploy them very frequently. Every time I show the GUI interface to the client's IT team it's a drama... Luckily the CLI and the configuration architecture are really really good. 
And let's not talk about the historic Identifi / ExtremeWireless products, a real disaster...

Ok, Extreme is leader on the Magic Quadrant 2019 & 2020 ??
Just open a GUI interface of VX9K or V2110 and compare that with other manufacturers. Maybe the idea is just to buy companies to get into the Magic Quadrant.

I feel like there's a difference in budget between the marketing team and the development team of the OS WING...

tcheurby,
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Hi Tcheurby, Martin,

 

Agreed, look & feel of WiNG GUI is a bit cringy at first sight, I even had a customer who told me “it’s nice but let’s come back to business when they migrate from Flash”.

One can get used to it after a while, in fact it’s not about how it looks. I think it could have become a bit too hectic when trying to manage and integrate all the stuff together, limited time & money and endless tasks and must-have features to not fall behind with buzzwords ‘n’ stuff (I could even find some plans regarding 8x8 11ax AP: https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/the-ultimate-wi-fi-access-point-which-wi-fi-6-features-define-the-new-premium-tier.pdf but better not treat this doc seriously). Non-technical customer representatives may often compare features from the datasheet and I suspect that’s one of the driving factors rather than look & feel. But with Flash it’s not only a look & feel issue (and these darn refresh = relogin thing), it’s also about security and it would be nice to see care is taken before an ultimate deadline given by browser developers.

Hoping they are on the right track with migrating from flash-based UI, in the meantime I’d focus on CLI-based demonstrations, this is what allows to see full efficiency, speed and beauty of flexible configuration model, site-wide packet captures and so on.

 

Cheers,

Tomasz

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Have you seen, WING Manager (WING Man) has been released….an encapsulated Chrome browser with enabled Flash Plugin to manage WING Devices untill there is an HTML5 GUI for them.

I have a feeling that we will not see the HTML5 GUI before Flash is retired…..

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Captured in KB article: Is the WiNG GUI going to be moved to HTML5 after Flash is end of support?

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Hello Raul,
Yes, we are aware of this and our development teams are currently working on this. Support currently does not have any other details on this matter. If you need more information/details, please contact your Extreme Sales team.
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Tested temporary solution. Change the date of the access equipment. I have deactivated the automatic synchronisation and set the date of the computer to the year 2020, and it works.

How about domain PCs or VPN connection without time sync? I think the only solution in production environment is to deploy VM out of domain with date changed to 2020. I hope that development team will provide us HTML5 during this year…   

Well, according to Extreme:

WiNG-Man (WiNG-Manager) is a self-contained app that will allow the use of the WiNG flash GUI beyond the end of flash support. This tool is intended to be used by those with legacy deployments or advanced GUI users. It is only supported for the use of the WiNG graphical user interface.

So I believe they need to come up with a solution, set the time back is not a solution.

Of course it is only workaround temporary solution until Extreme development will resolve the problem with “Adobe’s end-of-life logic bomb”. 

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Probably it was not know at the time of creating WingMan that the Flashplugin already included the timebomb of self deactivation.

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Hello.

Tested with old browsers and no luck.

We got the same conclusion that change the Date to 31/12/2020 works, but this will break and impact  other things on the  PC like autentication,etc....

This is not a quick fix but a last resort fix. :(

CLI works without any problems.

Thanks.

 

Hi,

 

I’d say Konrad’s approach to have a VM might be the cleanest, yet the most effortful workaround. A securely accessed VM only able to communicate with WiNG controller IP.

 

Cheers,

Tomasz

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We are working on a new version of WingMan as we speak, this is obviously a high priority. The current target release is for tonight, barring any further setbacks. You can also consult this guide for updates as well: https://extremeportal.force.com/ExtrArticleDetail?an=000092008

 

Thanks for hanging in there with me everyone, I’ll keep you posted as I hear more. 

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Looks like the release is now scheduled for tomorrow noon. I’ll keep you all updated if I hear more. 

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Any ETA about HTML GUI ?

 

About 1800 WiNG APs and growing

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