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Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

Alexander4 — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 06:01:00 GMT

I want to use a AP150w without LAN connection as mesh and the ethernet ports for connecting wired clients.

I have set up a wireless network which runs ok. Then i configure the AP150 on wifi0 as backhaul mesh and choose the same channel as on the wired AP130. But after a restart, the AP150w will not mesh connect to the AP130. And, i see no Neighboring Devices on the AP150w, while using a wired connection. Strange.

May anybody share some light with me. I am totally lost.

Thanks for help.

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

samantha_lynn — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 21:35:33 GMT

If you aren't seeing neighboring devices, we are likely not getting successful background scans out of that AP. If you can share some tech data from the AP, I can confirm this for you and show you how to check for this yourself.

To get tech data using HiveManager Classic (myhive.aerohive.com) go to

Monitor> Select the check box next to the AP> Utilities> Get Tech Data.

To get tech data using HiveManager (formerly NG, cloud.aerohive.com) go to

Tools> Utilities> Get tech data> Check the box next to the device> Get tech data (blue button at the top of the page this time).

This guide reviews how to get tech data from the CLI of the AP in case that's easier:

https://thehivecommunity.aerohive.com/s/article/Collecting-Tech-Data-via-CLI

If you would rather share the tech data with me directly, please feel free to email me at communityhelp@aerohive.com.

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

Alexander4 — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 23:24:20 GMT

Hello Sam,

thanks for helping me.

I'm in HM (NG), but when i select "Tools" from the "Menubar", i can not select "Utilities", it simply does not open! Sorry, but i don`t get it...

kind regards

Alexander

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

samantha_lynn — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 23:25:49 GMT

If you are using HiveManager Connect, you won't have access to the Tools tab without upgrading to a paid version of HiveManager. As an alternative, could you try obtaining tech data via the CLI of the AP (https://thehivecommunity.aerohive.com/s/article/Collecting-Tech-Data-via-CLI)?

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

Alexander4 — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 23:31:13 GMT

Sorry, i got it. macOS safari problem within Version 12.0.3... 😞

So, here is the data.

Many thanks for help.

Alexander

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

samantha_lynn — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 23:44:27 GMT

Thanks for that data. I checked your background scans, and we're getting a few in but not many. I wouldn't be surprised if you have long gaps between when one goes through, which might explain a lapse in data. To show you what I'm seeing:

show interface wifi0:

Show interface wifi1:

Since we did get a few background scans in, I checked your neighbors and it was populating with a few (show acsp neighbor). There is one I think will cause some issues for your Mesh connection:

We want that RSSI value between -75 and -100. Anything in the -50's to 0 is too loud, and will be especially problematic for Mesh connections.

I also noticed a 36% CRC failure rate on wifi0, that doesn't bode well for Mesh either, that tells us that 36% of your wireless traffic on this radio is too damaged to read and had to be resent at least one time. I would recommend sticking to wifi1 for your Mesh traffic if you aren't already.

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

Alexander4 — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 00:16:37 GMT

Sorry Sam,

i did not understand your answer, so i have to write mine new. OK, first you say, the RSSI of the SSID i want to connect to is too loud. OK, but, may you please check the SSID "Gescht" from my AP130 and AP230, which are also on 2,4 Ghz.

OK, then i will move my AP150w (Mesh) closer to my AP130/AP230, just in case...

I will come backup to you..

Many thanks for help...

Alexander

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

Alexander4 — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 00:25:57 GMT

HI SAM,

i have moved the AP150w as close as 1 meter to the AP130. And attached, is the techdata of the AP130. Maybe you get now better results, but the AP150w is still not meshing.... 😞

best

Alexander

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

ashley_finch — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 00:39:00 GMT

Hi Alexander,

Has the AP130 also had the backhaul mesh link option enabled on the WiFi0 interface?

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

samantha_lynn — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 00:44:20 GMT

Thanks for the new tech data, the interference is improved, you're down to a 12% CRC failure rate, which is livable. Could you run these commands on the APs that are trying to mesh and share the output:

show hive VHM-RAAPFUJE neighbor

show amrp neighbor

Also could you confirm that the meshing APs have the same HiveOS version (or as close as possible), the same channels statically set for the radios you are using for Mesh, and that they both have Backhaul Mesh link chosen as their Radio usage mode?

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

Alexander4 — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 00:54:58 GMT

@Ashley Finch Hi, no, only the AP150w. Good?

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

ashley_finch — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 00:59:52 GMT

You'll need to enabled this on the AP130 also in order for the 150 to mesh. It may not come up instantly, but if you keep check on the show amrp neighbor you should see it come up shortly after.

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

Alexander4 — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 04:10:17 GMT

@Ashley Finch . Nice Work! Now it is working! Hell YEAH!

@Jade Support Please update the documentation here.

Many thanks to everybody for your help. I will give feedback to the AeroHive Switzerland Support @Infinigate.

Take care

Alexander

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

samantha_lynn — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 04:19:48 GMT

Thanks for letting us know @Alexander von Widekind . When you say update that guide, do you mean to include setting those radios in backhaul mesh mode? That should be in the first paragraph under "Solution": To set up Meshing on HiveManager go to Monitor> Click on the host name of the AP to be used in the Mesh connection to open device specific settings. Then on the left hand side menu, go to Configuration> Interface Settings. In here, go to either the 2.4 GHz Radio tab or the 5 GHz radio tab and click the check box next to Backhaul Mesh Link.

Or did you mean to add something else? I just want to make sure the guide is a useful as possible. Thanks again for the feedback!

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

Alexander4 — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 04:35:27 GMT

Hi Sam,

in the guide, under solution you find.....To set up Meshing on HiveManager go to Monitor> Click on the host name of the AP to be used in the Mesh connection to open device specific settings. Then on the left hand side menu, go to Configuration> Interface Settings. In here, go to either the 2.4 GHz Radio tab or the 5 GHz radio tab and click the check box next to Backhaul Mesh Link. Please change this setting on the AP which will do Mesh as well as the wired AP.

The BOLD part only describes one Access Point, not BOTH. I would think, it could be a good idea to write here something like the underlined explanation.

Hope that is what you meant.

Best and you are very welcome

Alexander

Re: Mesh between AP130 and AP150w

samantha_lynn — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 05:45:59 GMT

Thanks very much for explaining, I've updated the guide to hopefully make that clearer. I sincerely appreciate the feedback, please let me know if you can think of anything else we can improve, on this guide or any others you come across.