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Replacing a Cisco 3845 router and Cisco 3560 switch with extreme products

theoadon — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 18:58:00 GMT

HI There,

We asked from a customer to replace his network equipment.
Now the customer's site is using a Cisco 3845 router and Cisco Catalyst 3560 48p X2

Can anyone help us for equal equipment of extreme products?

Thank you in advance,

Theodore

RE: Replacing a Cisco 3845 router and Cisco 3560 switch with extreme products

davidj_cogliane — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 19:21:00 GMT

Sounds like you need a local partner. Where are you located?

RE: Replacing a Cisco 3845 router and Cisco 3560 switch with extreme products

theoadon — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 19:47:00 GMT

Hi David,

We are partner of Extreme, and we are trying to quote our customer with the best solution.
Any help or routing/switching will be highly appreciated.

I can see on the product list the CER 2000 but this is not entry level router. Is there a router similar to 3845?

Thank you in advance

RE: Replacing a Cisco 3845 router and Cisco 3560 switch with extreme products

davidj_cogliane — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 19:54:00 GMT

Well, I would start by talking to the customer and perhaps doing a little network discovery to determine what protocols you will need to be able to run and what port speeds you need for uplinks and even stack ports.

Once you have that information you should be able to with your channel SE to narrow things down further.

Unfortunately I think that's all I can say on this one, because it feels like if you are in Michigan my sales department would not want me saying any more.

Good luck,

RE: Replacing a Cisco 3845 router and Cisco 3560 switch with extreme products

theoadon — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:05:00 GMT

Hi David,

We are in Greece, not in US, and you can find us here:
www.zetes.com
Please feel free to contact us.
We have gathered all the info you mention, but for now the customer is operating with the Cisco 3845.
In order to migrate to Extreme environment, we investigate the options we have.
Unfortunately , I can not see a router like this one (3845), everything is more..more !!!

Anyway thank you for your time.

regards,

RE: Replacing a Cisco 3845 router and Cisco 3560 switch with extreme products

Tomasz — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:05:00 GMT

Hi Theodore,

What would be the reason customer sticks to a router, while many features can be fulfilled with modern switches? Here you have a wide variety of them that can potentially fit, EXOS models (like X690), VSP models, SLX (switches, there is SLX router but 230 Tbps chassis sounds like an overkill if you're not running The Matrix  ), S series or VDX perhaps...

Regards,
Tomasz

RE: Replacing a Cisco 3845 router and Cisco 3560 switch with extreme products

EtherMAN — Wed, 03 Oct 2018 23:17:00 GMT

I will approach this in a different direction. You must look at their needs and network to see if all the Cisco Layer 3 routing and protocols can be made simpler by using vlans and switches around a common core router that can run VRRP or OSPF or maybe even just static routes if it is a single router in the middle of a LAN. Cisco is about building networks to sell more Cisco gear and many times is more complex than it needs to be in order to sell more gear. Anyway just my thoughts
on this ...

RE: Replacing a Cisco 3845 router and Cisco 3560 switch with extreme products

Erik_Auerswald — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 12:25:00 GMT

Hi theoadon,

I agree with EtherMAN that an EXOS switch can quite often replace a router, but only if the WAN connection is using Ethernet (e.g. an Ethernet port of a provider router, or a DSL modem, or a cable modem). The X460-G2 might be a good starting point to look at.

Thanks,
Erik

RE: Replacing a Cisco 3845 router and Cisco 3560 switch with extreme products

theoadon — Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:59:00 GMT

Hi there,

Thank you all for your inputs.
I know that CISCO is building networks the way that CISCO needs to sell more. The issue here in Greece is that almost 99% of the Network equipment at any installation is CISCO. Take this for granted.
We are trying to persuade our customers to move to another provider for more simple, more secure and more reliable but this is not always easy.

I am considering EtherMAN answer as an option, and James A for the security , integration.

Thanks,

Theoadon

RE: Replacing a Cisco 3845 router and Cisco 3560 switch with extreme products

EtherMAN — Wed, 10 Oct 2018 20:37:00 GMT

Good luck Theoadan. I help run a large ISP/Service providor network all on Extreme for 21 years. I can not tell you how many times this has come up and I have helped those with open minds re-work and simplify their Cisco networks from layer 3 everywhere to layer 2 to edge with hardened and redundant common core's... Some of these even continued to use their Cisco but more as a switch instead of a router... It can be an uphill battle for sure. Good luck and please continue to use the knowledge base we have here which IMO is the best support forum of any vendor I work with...