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    <title>topic End-System reason 'End-System Session Detected'? in ExtremeControl</title>
    <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremecontrol/end-system-reason-end-system-session-detected/m-p/72038#M143</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have recently migrated&amp;nbsp;a mobile providers APN device over to Extremecontrol.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the example below the third line down is a legitimate authentication requested from a mobile device, and these use PAP to authenticate.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;FIGURE&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="13c1ac6a01d94e32b4d9e775bd40b043_e3f6bd8a-4f0b-499b-bdb6-8ed55889e67e.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/5325iE877F5EA6EB4612F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="13c1ac6a01d94e32b4d9e775bd40b043_e3f6bd8a-4f0b-499b-bdb6-8ed55889e67e.png" alt="13c1ac6a01d94e32b4d9e775bd40b043_e3f6bd8a-4f0b-499b-bdb6-8ed55889e67e.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/FIGURE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The question is in relation to the lines shown in red.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When debugging requests shown below (IP’s and MAC’s have been masked), and further validated through a pcap, these are just accounting (port 1813) messages and not real authentication (port 1812)&amp;nbsp;requests.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 DEBUG [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x Accounting Session-Timeout disabled, Switch: 10.x.x.x RADIUS accounting is: enabled&lt;BR /&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 INFO [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x Processing Accounting Request for MAC: 44-79-71-xx-xx-xx, userName: GPRSWINP8, AuthType: AUTH_8021X, Status Type: INTERIM_UPDATE&lt;BR /&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 DEBUG [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x Evaluating 1 sessions to see if they affect this session.&lt;BR /&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 DEBUG [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x - Evaluating session MAC: 44-79-71-xx-xx-xx, authType: AUTH_8021X, connectionState: ACTIVE_WITH_HIGHEST_PRECEDENCE&lt;BR /&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 DEBUG [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x - this is the same session: 44-79-71-xx-xx-xx, authType: AUTH_8021X, already set to the highest precedence.&lt;BR /&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 DEBUG [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x Setting all auth types: AUTH_8021X for MAC: 44-79-71-xx-xx-xx, auth type: AUTH_8021X&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;My question is if in XMC how does the End-systems show the distinction between the two i.e. what's a real request or not? I get you you shouldn’t really get&amp;nbsp;accounting information without the original authentication request, so might be a corner case?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I see one difference in&amp;nbsp;that just the accounting information has the ‘End-System Session Detected’, where as valid authentication requests show an actual rule, would that just be it?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2021 02:04:03 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-04-07T02:04:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>End-System reason 'End-System Session Detected'?</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremecontrol/end-system-reason-end-system-session-detected/m-p/72038#M143</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have recently migrated&amp;nbsp;a mobile providers APN device over to Extremecontrol.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the example below the third line down is a legitimate authentication requested from a mobile device, and these use PAP to authenticate.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;FIGURE&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="13c1ac6a01d94e32b4d9e775bd40b043_e3f6bd8a-4f0b-499b-bdb6-8ed55889e67e.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/5325iE877F5EA6EB4612F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="13c1ac6a01d94e32b4d9e775bd40b043_e3f6bd8a-4f0b-499b-bdb6-8ed55889e67e.png" alt="13c1ac6a01d94e32b4d9e775bd40b043_e3f6bd8a-4f0b-499b-bdb6-8ed55889e67e.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/FIGURE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The question is in relation to the lines shown in red.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When debugging requests shown below (IP’s and MAC’s have been masked), and further validated through a pcap, these are just accounting (port 1813) messages and not real authentication (port 1812)&amp;nbsp;requests.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 DEBUG [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x Accounting Session-Timeout disabled, Switch: 10.x.x.x RADIUS accounting is: enabled&lt;BR /&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 INFO [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x Processing Accounting Request for MAC: 44-79-71-xx-xx-xx, userName: GPRSWINP8, AuthType: AUTH_8021X, Status Type: INTERIM_UPDATE&lt;BR /&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 DEBUG [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x Evaluating 1 sessions to see if they affect this session.&lt;BR /&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 DEBUG [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x - Evaluating session MAC: 44-79-71-xx-xx-xx, authType: AUTH_8021X, connectionState: ACTIVE_WITH_HIGHEST_PRECEDENCE&lt;BR /&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 DEBUG [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x - this is the same session: 44-79-71-xx-xx-xx, authType: AUTH_8021X, already set to the highest precedence.&lt;BR /&gt;2021-03-31 20:53:51,945 DEBUG [com.enterasys.tesNb.server.rmi.RadiusAccountingManager] (AcctReq57773:127.0.0.1:) ESDMAC:37-34-10,ESDIP:10.x.x.x Setting all auth types: AUTH_8021X for MAC: 44-79-71-xx-xx-xx, auth type: AUTH_8021X&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;My question is if in XMC how does the End-systems show the distinction between the two i.e. what's a real request or not? I get you you shouldn’t really get&amp;nbsp;accounting information without the original authentication request, so might be a corner case?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I see one difference in&amp;nbsp;that just the accounting information has the ‘End-System Session Detected’, where as valid authentication requests show an actual rule, would that just be it?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2021 02:04:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremecontrol/end-system-reason-end-system-session-detected/m-p/72038#M143</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-07T02:04:03Z</dc:date>
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