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    <title>topic RE: Iproute sharing enabled, static routes with BFD is in FIB even if BFD peer is not yet seen in ExtremeSwitching (EXOS/Switch Engine)</title>
    <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54764#M15681</link>
    <description>Hi Oscar,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks for confirming the problem. Then we believe  the design should be questioned, we don’t believe that it should work like  this.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
    If you have requested a BFD protection of  the route, then the route should be installed only if BFD is UP. And initially,  until the peer have been seen, it is NOT up.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
What do you think?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Best regards,&lt;BR /&gt;
Harri&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:21:00 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Harri_Jaakkola</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-11-16T16:21:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Iproute sharing enabled, static routes with BFD is in FIB even if BFD peer is not yet seen</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54756#M15673</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;
We have a situation where we have identified an interesting issue.&lt;BR /&gt;
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We are using Summit X670s (tested both G1 and G2) and want to use static routing with BFD protection, and we also enable iproute sharing to 4 different destinations. However, when preparing this setup, initially we have only two destinations configured from start. The other two destinations are not up yet, but anyway we see an output from "show iproute" like below:&lt;BR /&gt;
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* (vr VR70c07e9d-5261-4028-a90c-36df) SWA_X670V.7 # show iproute  Ori  Destination        Gateway         Mtr  Flags         VLAN       Duration&lt;BR /&gt;
#s   Default Route      172.17.21.137   1    UG---S-um--f- tenant_3796 0d:20h:51m:11s&lt;BR /&gt;
#s   10.35.57.101/32    192.168.216.4   1    UG---Sbum--f- tenant_3005 0d:20h:51m:11s&lt;BR /&gt;
#s   10.35.57.101/32    192.168.216.6   1    UG---Sbum--f- tenant_3005 0d:20h:51m:11s&lt;BR /&gt;
#s   10.35.57.101/32    192.168.216.8   1    UG---Spum--f- tenant_3005 0d:20h:51m:11s&lt;BR /&gt;
#s   10.35.57.101/32    192.168.216.10  1    UG---Spum--f- tenant_3005 0d:20h:51m:11s&lt;BR /&gt;
       (mo) MOSPF (o) OSPF, (o1) OSPFExt1, (o2) OSPFExt2,&lt;BR /&gt;
       (oa) OSPFIntra, (oe) OSPFAsExt, (or) OSPFInter, (pd) PIM-DM, (ps) PIM-SM,&lt;BR /&gt;
       (r) RIP, (ra) RtAdvrt, (s) Static, (sv) SLB_VIP, (un) UnKnown,&lt;BR /&gt;
       (*) Preferred unicast route (@) Preferred multicast route,&lt;BR /&gt;
       (#) Preferred unicast and multicast route.&lt;BR /&gt;
Flags: (b) BFD protection requested, (B) BlackHole, (c) Compressed, (D) Dynamic,&lt;BR /&gt;
       (f) Provided to FIB, (G) Gateway, (H) Host Route, (l) Calculated LDP LSP,&lt;BR /&gt;
       (L) Matching LDP LSP, (m) Multicast, (p) BFD protection active, (P) LPM-routing,&lt;BR /&gt;
       (R) Modified, (s) Static LSP, (S) Static, (t) Calculated RSVP-TE LSP,&lt;BR /&gt;
       (T) Matching RSVP-TE LSP, (u) Unicast, (U) Up, (3) L3VPN Route.BFD session status:  * (vr VR70c07e9d-5261-4028-a90c-36df) SWA_X670V.8 # show bfd session  Neighbor       Interface      Clients  Detection  Status       VR&lt;BR /&gt;
=============================================================================&lt;BR /&gt;
192.168.216.4  tenant_3005    ----s      0        Down         VR70c07e9d-5261-4028-a90c-36df&lt;BR /&gt;
192.168.216.6  tenant_3005    ----s      0        Down         VR70c07e9d-5261-4028-a90c-36df&lt;BR /&gt;
192.168.216.8  tenant_3005    ----s      900      Up           VR70c07e9d-5261-4028-a90c-36df&lt;BR /&gt;
192.168.216.10 tenant_3005    ----s      900      Up           VR70c07e9d-5261-4028-a90c-36df&lt;BR /&gt;
=============================================================================&lt;BR /&gt;
Clients Flag: m - MPLS, o - OSPF, s - Static&lt;BR /&gt;
NOTE: All timers in milliseconds.&lt;BR /&gt;
The issue is that the f flag seems to be set for all destinations, even if the BFD protection is requested but not yet active, ie the other peer end has not been seen yet, This is also seen by flag "b". As we understand it, this is wrong, or? If we bring up the destinations once, then the f flag is following the BFD session status. Down =&amp;gt; flag removed, and UP =&amp;gt; flag added. And, if we remove iproute sharing, the f-flag remains only for the first route entry.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Max shared gateways has been configured to 32.&lt;BR /&gt;
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The issue was seen with default installed XOS 15.6.1.4, but yesterday we upgraded to latest XOS 16.1.2.14. But issue remains same.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
And yes, we have been looking through this forum for similar issues without luck.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
BR,&lt;BR /&gt;
Harri</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:45:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54756#M15673</guid>
      <dc:creator>Harri_Jaakkola</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T20:45:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>RE: Iproute sharing enabled, static routes with BFD is in FIB even if BFD peer is not yet seen</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54757#M15674</link>
      <description>I was able to replicate the issue you have seen when the BFD sessions have never been up.  If the sessions are up and then go down it does work. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Captures from my test. &lt;BR /&gt;
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switch.114 # show bfd session  Neighbor       Interface      Clients  Detection  Status       VR  ============================================================================= 1.1.1.1        routeing       ----s      3000     Up           VR-Default      11.11.11.2     v1             ----s      3000     Up           VR-Default      22.22.22.2     v2             ----s      3000     Up           VR-Default      =============================================================================  switch.115 # show iproute  Ori  Destination        Gateway         Mtr  Flags         VLAN       Duration #d   1.1.1.0/24         1.1.1.2         1    U------um--f- routeing   0d:0h:49m:11s #s   2.2.2.0/24         1.1.1.1         1    UG---Spum--f- routeing   0d:0h:37m:48s #s   2.2.2.0/24         11.11.11.2      1    UG---Spum--f- v1         0d:0h:7m:22s #s   2.2.2.0/24         22.22.22.2      1    UG---Spum--f- v2         0d:0h:7m:34s #d   11.11.11.0/24      11.11.11.1      1    U------um--f- v1         0d:0h:9m:26s #d   22.22.22.0/24      22.22.22.1      1    U------um--f- v2         0d:0h:8m:20s   * switch.116 # show bfd session  Neighbor       Interface      Clients  Detection  Status       VR  ============================================================================= 1.1.1.1        routeing       ----s      3000     Up           VR-Default      11.11.11.2     v1             ----s      3000     Up           VR-Default      22.22.22.2     v2             ----s      0        Down         VR-Default      =============================================================================   switch.117 # show iproute  Ori  Destination        Gateway         Mtr  Flags         VLAN       Duration #d   1.1.1.0/24         1.1.1.2         1    U------um--f- routeing   0d:0h:49m:33s #s   2.2.2.0/24         1.1.1.1         1    UG---Spum--f- routeing   0d:0h:38m:10s #s   2.2.2.0/24         11.11.11.2      1    UG---Spum--f- v1         0d:0h:7m:44s  s   2.2.2.0/24         22.22.22.2      1    -G---Spum---- v2         0d:0h:7m:56s #d   11.11.11.0/24      11.11.11.1      1    U------um--f- v1         0d:0h:9m:48s #d   22.22.22.0/24      22.22.22.1      1    U------um--f- v2         0d:0h:8m:42s</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:31:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54757#M15674</guid>
      <dc:creator>StephenW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T21:31:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>RE: Iproute sharing enabled, static routes with BFD is in FIB even if BFD peer is not yet seen</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54758#M15675</link>
      <description>Harri,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Where you able to try the solution.  I want to make sure it worked for you.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Stephen&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 03:53:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54758#M15675</guid>
      <dc:creator>StephenW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-12T03:53:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>RE: Iproute sharing enabled, static routes with BFD is in FIB even if BFD peer is not yet seen</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54759#M15676</link>
      <description>Yes, as I also wrote initally, if we bring the forwarding destination IPs up once, in order for the BFD session to be established once, then it works. The issue is that we want the forwarding sharing to work correctly even if we don't bring them up once. Why are the destinations put in the forwarding table immediately, when BFD session is not yet up?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
BR,&lt;BR /&gt;
Harri</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:35:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54759#M15676</guid>
      <dc:creator>Harri_Jaakkola</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-12T14:35:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>RE: Iproute sharing enabled, static routes with BFD is in FIB even if BFD peer is not yet seen</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54760#M15677</link>
      <description>I understand, the BFD feature was probably only written to remove the route when the BFD session goes from Up to Down.  You can open a case with GTAC and reference this hub post to get a bug/feature-request created for this.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks for letting us know about this behavior.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Stephen&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:35:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54760#M15677</guid>
      <dc:creator>StephenW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-12T14:35:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>RE: Iproute sharing enabled, static routes with BFD is in FIB even if BFD peer is not yet seen</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54761#M15678</link>
      <description>OK. Thanks for recreating the problem and your ack of bug-candidate.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
/Harri&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:42:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54761#M15678</guid>
      <dc:creator>Harri_Jaakkola</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-12T21:42:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>RE: Iproute sharing enabled, static routes with BFD is in FIB even if BFD peer is not yet seen</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54762#M15679</link>
      <description>I created an article so others can follow the solution to this thread.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;A href="https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/articles/Q_A/BDF-session-is-down-but-route-is-still-in-the-routing-table-when-using-ECMP" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener"&gt;https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/articles/Q_A/BDF-session-is-down-but-route-is-still-in-the...&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:22:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54762#M15679</guid>
      <dc:creator>StephenW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-12T22:22:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>RE: Iproute sharing enabled, static routes with BFD is in FIB even if BFD peer is not yet seen</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54763#M15680</link>
      <description>The seen behavior is the designed behavior. This is confirmed by engineering.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2015 15:45:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54763#M15680</guid>
      <dc:creator>OscarK</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-16T15:45:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>RE: Iproute sharing enabled, static routes with BFD is in FIB even if BFD peer is not yet seen</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54764#M15681</link>
      <description>Hi Oscar,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks for confirming the problem. Then we believe  the design should be questioned, we don’t believe that it should work like  this.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
    If you have requested a BFD protection of  the route, then the route should be installed only if BFD is UP. And initially,  until the peer have been seen, it is NOT up.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
What do you think?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Best regards,&lt;BR /&gt;
Harri&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:21:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremeswitching-exos-switch/iproute-sharing-enabled-static-routes-with-bfd-is-in-fib-even-if/m-p/54764#M15681</guid>
      <dc:creator>Harri_Jaakkola</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-16T16:21:00Z</dc:date>
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