Management subnet for Wireless

dan400 — Wed, 11 Dec 2024 09:06:02 GMT

Hi,

We're new to Extreme Networks (Wireless) and have inherited a large single site with nearly 400 Access Points. We're experiencing various issues with wireless dropouts across the network, especially when put under moderate pressure (ie streaming 4k video).

Currently, the management IP for the AP's is spread across 6 different Subnets and VLANs. Is this a supported configuration for a single site, or should we move the management IP for all the AP's to a single subnet?

Many thanks, Dan

Re: Management subnet for Wireless

Chris_Mabie — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:41:28 GMT

Hey Dan,

1. Setup comparison:

I remember the initial Extreme dojo training talked about the Ap's self communication/manage themselves accress their management vlan. This helps with roaming, some management and I forget what else.

My largest building setup is a High School with 200ish Ap's and 1800 user, 3 floors. I seperate out my Ap management vlan by rack. This allows me more policy control within Xiq, and to sub divide my clients per vlan. I shoot for no more than 300 clients per vlan, otherwise I had issues in the past with Apple ipad devices.

2. Streaming 4k video:

How is your RF environment setup, and the density of clients? Can the RF environment handle the required bandwidth? AC or AX clients?

Example: My density is (to me) super high, Ap per classroom 40-50 devices per classroom. 20mhz channels due to density, but I have 410c Dual Ap's. so two 20mhz channel per classroom. Teachers cast a mirror display or stream youtube videos wireless all day. But I limit them to 1080p resolution, seperate out their device and receving display device into a seperate SSID. I then set an SSID policy to Qos a min of 20mbps per device. 1080p (Full HD): 5–8 Mbps, which can fit in my 100mbps 20mhz channel size.

Quick Google AI Result

4K video streaming requires a minimum of 25 Mbps of bandwidth, but a stable connection with at least 50 Mbps is recommended for smooth streaming. However, bandwidth usage can vary based on several factors, including: Video length, Streaming platform, Number of devices, Encoder and streaming service, and Whether viewers can view the stream in 4K.

Here are some other things to consider when streaming 4K video:

Different platforms have different speed requirements and recommended encoding settings.
Streaming in 4K over Wi-Fi is not recommended because of stability issues. However, if you have a strong router and a connection of at least 30 Mbps, you might be able to view a 4K stream over Wi-Fi.

Re: Management subnet for Wireless

scerazy — Tue, 07 Jan 2025 07:47:22 GMT

You want to have max 100 APs per management VLAN (that is nothing to do with SSID vlans)

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