https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16101#M269 Hi Alona,<BR /> <BR /> When transferred data trought eth all seems exellent, but when wireless clients transferred we sew a very slow download speeds (about 3-5MB/s trought the radio1 inerface) and about 60%+ ping drops and very high latency. The wireless clients we had: 1 pc + as 6 OLD MC9060/9090 + as 25 MC18 = as 32 units <BR /> Started working on 2.4GHZ only. After sew this issue - added also 5GHZ and it improved the download speeds.<BR /> Maybe there is no more a massive downloading as it was and now we don't see this issue any more on the logs. It was couple of days before.<BR /> For my own opinion, it was a side-effect of using an old MC9060/9090 mobiles on the same radio with newest devices and it caused a slowness. <BR /> But why we have seen a huge 60%+ ping drops with very high response time 1000-2000ms and more?<BR /> <BR /> Thanks,<BR /> <BR /> Aviv<BR /> <BR /> P.S All these clients and this issue was on 1 AP. Other 2 ap's are in a different areas. Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:47:00 GMT Aviv_Kedem 2018-04-10T20:47:00Z https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16095#M263 Hello community,<BR /> <BR /> I have many dropreasons 305 - offloaded tx radio NAR q full.<BR /> AP7532 WING 5.9.1.4 - small deployment with only 3 AP's. Configured with trunk on ge1.<BR /> <BR /> What is the meaning of dropreason 305 ?<BR /> <BR /> Thanks,<BR /> <BR /> Aviv<BR /> <BR /> Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:07:00 GMT https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16095#M263 Aviv_Kedem 2018-04-10T17:07:00Z https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16096#M264 This means radio has trouble transmitting packets. Is this radio 1 or radio 2? Do you have the full output of proc\dataplane\wireless\radio\radio1-stats or radio2-stats? See if there is interference. Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:47:00 GMT https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16096#M264 Alona 2018-04-10T20:47:00Z https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16097#M265 Hello Alona,<BR /> <BR /> Yes I have it.<BR /> Tomorrow I'll post it.<BR /> <BR /> Thanks, Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:47:00 GMT https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16097#M265 Aviv_Kedem 2018-04-10T20:47:00Z https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16098#M266 Hello Alona,<BR /> <BR /> It is radio1+radio2.<BR /> <BR /> more system:/proc/dataplane/wireless/radio/radio1-stats <BR /> idx:0 rd_type:3 last_slow_update:14190468 jiffies:14190788<BR /> <BR /> pkts_in_use 1262 pend prbrsp:0<BR /> tx:<BR /> pkts:644233 bytes:145732593 retries:209101 (24%) avg_retry_num:0.07<BR /> bcmc:13292 (2%) bcmc_bytes:1301986 non_data:268494 probe:73736 bar:0<BR /> dropped:136 (0%) failed:6160 (0%) failed_probe_resp:39466 dtim_bcmc_overflow:0<BR /> avg_rate:36.4 avg_rate_non_data:10.4<BR /> avg_rate_unicast_data:53.2 avg_rate_bcast:11.0<BR /> pps:7.6 bps:3004<BR /> bcmc_pps:0.0 non_data_pps:2.4 probe_pps:0.0 dropped_pps:0.0<BR /> AC pkts 24764 229270 108410 0<BR /> AC bytes 5426050 97540147 28388809 0<BR /> AC retries 13255 96192 46031 0<BR /> AC dropped 0 0 136 0<BR /> AC pps 0.4 4.2 0.6 0.0<BR /> AC bps 92 2753 95 0<BR /> ampdus:0 mpdus_in_ampdus:0 avg - current_avg:0.0<BR /> amsdus:0 msdus_in_amsdus:0 avg -<BR /> stbc:0<BR /> pkts by rate:<BR /> 1 2 5.5 6 9 11 12 18<BR /> 1054 ( 0%) 63 ( 0%) 298 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 19951 ( 5%) 0 ( 0%) 4399 ( 1%)<BR /> 24 36 48 54<BR /> 7035 ( 1%) 14401 ( 3%) 54762 (14%) 273773 (72%)<BR /> cw 20:<BR /> mcs0-1s mcs1-1s mcs2-1s mcs3-1s mcs4-1s mcs5-1s mcs6-1s mcs7-1s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-2s mcs1-2s mcs2-2s mcs3-2s mcs4-2s mcs5-2s mcs6-2s mcs7-2s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-3s mcs1-3s mcs2-3s mcs3-3s mcs4-3s mcs5-3s mcs6-3s mcs7-3s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> cw 40:<BR /> mcs0-1s mcs1-1s mcs2-1s mcs3-1s mcs4-1s mcs5-1s mcs6-1s mcs7-1s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-2s mcs1-2s mcs2-2s mcs3-2s mcs4-2s mcs5-2s mcs6-2s mcs7-2s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-3s mcs1-3s mcs2-3s mcs3-3s mcs4-3s mcs5-3s mcs6-3s mcs7-3s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> <BR /> cw 80:<BR /> mcs0-1s mcs1-1s mcs2-1s mcs3-1s mcs4-1s mcs5-1s mcs6-1s mcs7-1s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-2s mcs1-2s mcs2-2s mcs3-2s mcs4-2s mcs5-2s mcs6-2s mcs7-2s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-3s mcs1-3s mcs2-3s mcs3-3s mcs4-3s mcs5-3s mcs6-3s mcs7-3s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> pkts by size: 302156 (80%) 3557 (0%) 56731 (15%) 0 (0%)<BR /> Voice delay 0ms<BR /> rx:<BR /> pkts:4247858 bytes:847808502 pkts_with_retry:24793 (0%)<BR /> bcmc:1132 (0%) non_data:3768419 probe:558480 ignored_probe:0 (0%) bcn:0<BR /> auth_assoc:358 action:0 ps_poll:0 bar:0<BR /> error:2027323 crc_error:2027222 undecryptable:101 mic_fails:0 other:0 replay_check_fails:101<BR /> incomplete:0 wrong len:0 aggr_seq_errs:0 aggr_pkt_miss:0 dot11_dups:0<BR /> avg_rate:8.1 avg_rate_data:53.0 avg_rate_non_data:1.0<BR /> channel:6 channel_utilization:14 <BR /> avg_signal:-58 avg_noise:-91<BR /> pps:30.0 bps:5494 pps_with_retry:0.4<BR /> bcmc_pps:0.0 non_data_pps:23.0 probe_pps:5.6 bcn_pps:0.0<BR /> AC pkts 234 2419 476786 0<BR /> AC bytes 26613 130626 68407390 0<BR /> AC pkts with retry 20 124 23763 0<BR /> AC pps 0.0 0.0 7.0 0.0<BR /> AC bps 0 0 1076 0<BR /> ampdus:0 mpdus_in_ampdus:0 avg -<BR /> amsdus:0 msdus_in_amsdus:0 avg -<BR /> otls_tags on 24Ghz:0<BR /> otls_tags on 5Ghz:0<BR /> pkts by rate:<BR /> 1 2 5.5 6 9 11 12 18<BR /> 172 ( 0%) 15 ( 0%) 342 ( 0%) 231 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 4330 ( 0%) 608 ( 0%) 170 ( 0%)<BR /> 24 36 48 54<BR /> 1290 ( 0%) 7210 ( 1%) 21585 ( 4%) 443486 (92%)<BR /> cw 20:<BR /> mcs0-1s mcs1-1s mcs2-1s mcs3-1s mcs4-1s mcs5-1s mcs6-1s mcs7-1s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-2s mcs1-2s mcs2-2s mcs3-2s mcs4-2s mcs5-2s mcs6-2s mcs7-2s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-3s mcs1-3s mcs2-3s mcs3-3s mcs4-3s mcs5-3s mcs6-3s mcs7-3s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> cw 40:<BR /> mcs0-1s mcs1-1s mcs2-1s mcs3-1s mcs4-1s mcs5-1s mcs6-1s mcs7-1s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-2s mcs1-2s mcs2-2s mcs3-2s mcs4-2s mcs5-2s mcs6-2s mcs7-2s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-3s mcs1-3s mcs2-3s mcs3-3s mcs4-3s mcs5-3s mcs6-3s mcs7-3s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> <BR /> cw 80:<BR /> mcs0-1s mcs1-1s mcs2-1s mcs3-1s mcs4-1s mcs5-1s mcs6-1s mcs7-1s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-2s mcs1-2s mcs2-2s mcs3-2s mcs4-2s mcs5-2s mcs6-2s mcs7-2s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-3s mcs1-3s mcs2-3s mcs3-3s mcs4-3s mcs5-3s mcs6-3s mcs7-3s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> <BR /> pkts by size: 434952 (90%) 41638 (8%) 2849 (0%) 0 (0%)<BR /> TSPEC:<BR /> ac: 0 accepted: 0 denied 0 invalid 0<BR /> ac: 1 accepted: 0 denied 0 invalid 0<BR /> ac: 2 accepted: 0 denied 0 invalid 0<BR /> ac: 3 accepted: 0 denied 0 invalid 0<BR /> MISC:<BR /> wips tx frames: 0 wips tx dropped frames:0 <BR /> wips tx frames in queue: 0 wips tx fails:0 <BR /> wips tx queue full: 0 wips tx no ack:0 <BR /> sent to wips:0 drop1:0s drop2:0 <BR /> Brcm PMQ stats: blocked 25 reset 0 <BR /> Brcm Adaptivity stats: total bcn fail cnt: 0 channel switches: 0 high noise cnt: 0<BR /> Brcm PHYTX errors: 0 <BR /> Brcm ucode watchdogs resets: 0 <BR /> <BR /> more system:/proc/dataplane/wireless/radio/radio2-stats <BR /> idx:1 rd_type:4 last_slow_update:14216063 jiffies:14216063<BR /> <BR /> pkts_in_use 1254 pend prbrsp:0<BR /> tx:<BR /> pkts:429443 bytes:103547332 retries:26808 (5%) avg_retry_num:0.04<BR /> bcmc:9802 (2%) bcmc_bytes:960596 non_data:177862 probe:25836 bar:0<BR /> dropped:20 (0%) failed:281 (0%) failed_probe_resp:542 dtim_bcmc_overflow:0<BR /> avg_rate:39.2 avg_rate_non_data:18.3<BR /> avg_rate_unicast_data:53.2 avg_rate_bcast:24.0<BR /> pps:4.1 bps:589<BR /> bcmc_pps:0.0 non_data_pps:1.5 probe_pps:0.5 dropped_pps:0.0<BR /> AC pkts 15746 151471 74561 0<BR /> AC bytes 3476367 66463189 23165318 0<BR /> AC retries 1335 14935 6675 0<BR /> AC dropped 0 10 10 0<BR /> AC pps 0.3 2.3 0.0 0.0<BR /> AC bps 77 377 0 0<BR /> ampdus:0 mpdus_in_ampdus:0 avg - current_avg:0.0<BR /> amsdus:0 msdus_in_amsdus:0 avg -<BR /> stbc:0<BR /> pkts by rate:<BR /> 1 2 5.5 6 9 11 12 18<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 278 ( 0%) 181 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 420 ( 0%) 1809 ( 0%)<BR /> 24 36 48 54<BR /> 14642 ( 5%) 17790 ( 7%) 29309 (11%) 187151 (74%)<BR /> cw 20:<BR /> mcs0-1s mcs1-1s mcs2-1s mcs3-1s mcs4-1s mcs5-1s mcs6-1s mcs7-1s mcs8-1s mcs9-1s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-2s mcs1-2s mcs2-2s mcs3-2s mcs4-2s mcs5-2s mcs6-2s mcs7-2s mcs8-2s mcs9-2s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-3s mcs1-3s mcs2-3s mcs3-3s mcs4-3s mcs5-3s mcs6-3s mcs7-3s mcs8-3s mcs9-3s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> cw 40:<BR /> mcs0-1s mcs1-1s mcs2-1s mcs3-1s mcs4-1s mcs5-1s mcs6-1s mcs7-1s mcs8-1s mcs9-1s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-2s mcs1-2s mcs2-2s mcs3-2s mcs4-2s mcs5-2s mcs6-2s mcs7-2s mcs8-2s mcs9-2s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> mcs0-3s mcs1-3s mcs2-3s mcs3-3s mcs4-3s mcs5-3s mcs6-3s mcs7-3s mcs8-3s mcs9-3s<BR /> 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%)<BR /> <BR /> cw 80:<BR /> mcs0-1s mcs1-1s mcs2-1s mcs3-1s mcs4-1s mcs5-1s mcs6-1s mcs7-1s mcs8-1s mcs9-1s<BR /> 0 ( 0%)&amp; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:47:00 GMT https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16098#M266 Aviv_Kedem 2018-04-10T20:47:00Z https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16099#M267 Alona? Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:47:00 GMT https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16099#M267 Aviv_Kedem 2018-04-10T20:47:00Z https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16100#M268 This looks pretty good, no phy errors, channel look pretty clean, utilization is low. What is the actual issue you have? Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:47:00 GMT https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16100#M268 Alona 2018-04-10T20:47:00Z https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16101#M269 Hi Alona,<BR /> <BR /> When transferred data trought eth all seems exellent, but when wireless clients transferred we sew a very slow download speeds (about 3-5MB/s trought the radio1 inerface) and about 60%+ ping drops and very high latency. The wireless clients we had: 1 pc + as 6 OLD MC9060/9090 + as 25 MC18 = as 32 units <BR /> Started working on 2.4GHZ only. After sew this issue - added also 5GHZ and it improved the download speeds.<BR /> Maybe there is no more a massive downloading as it was and now we don't see this issue any more on the logs. It was couple of days before.<BR /> For my own opinion, it was a side-effect of using an old MC9060/9090 mobiles on the same radio with newest devices and it caused a slowness. <BR /> But why we have seen a huge 60%+ ping drops with very high response time 1000-2000ms and more?<BR /> <BR /> Thanks,<BR /> <BR /> Aviv<BR /> <BR /> P.S All these clients and this issue was on 1 AP. Other 2 ap's are in a different areas. Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:47:00 GMT https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16101#M269 Aviv_Kedem 2018-04-10T20:47:00Z https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16102#M270 Alona,<BR /> <BR /> MC9060/9090 running a wavelink and it should be fine also with some minor packet drops.<BR /> I think about disabling of airtime-fairness to take some airtime from old mobiles to newest so overall throughput should be inreased. I right?<BR /> <BR /> Thanks,<BR /> <BR /> Aviv Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:47:00 GMT https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16102#M270 Aviv_Kedem 2018-04-10T20:47:00Z https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16103#M271 Update,<BR /> <BR /> Added additional AP to split the clients between APS to make load balancing.<BR /> Anyway, I think should be some better solution here.<BR /> <BR /> Regards,<BR /> <BR /> Aviv Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:47:00 GMT https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/dropreason-305-offloaded-tx-radio-nar-q-full/m-p/16103#M271 Aviv_Kedem 2018-04-10T20:47:00Z