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    <title>topic Re: Recommended data rates on 2,4 and 5GHz in an office in ExtremeWireless (WiNG)</title>
    <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/recommended-data-rates-on-2-4-and-5ghz-in-an-office/m-p/69749#M6303</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Magneto,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;I have attached a &lt;STRONG&gt;Wing Best Practices&lt;/STRONG&gt; document and please navigate to the “&lt;STRONG&gt;802.11 Data Rates&lt;/STRONG&gt;” page, which covers data-rates best practices for different deployments.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As for your inquiry regarding basic versus supported data-rates:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;1. Basic Rates&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;The Basic Rate Set contains the rates that all devices in the cell must support; it is a sub-set of the Transmit Rate Set. &amp;nbsp;All control, multicast, and broadcast packets are transmitted using one of the Basic Rates (as defined by the IEEE 802.11 standards).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;2. Supported Rates&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;With wireless networks, there are many supported speeds depending on the standard of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;the hardware in use. For example, an 802.11b compliant device supports 11, 5.5, 2, &amp;amp; 1Mbps speeds. This capability information is passed in the beacons to inform the stations&amp;nbsp;what speeds are supported on the access point.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;3. Modulation and Coding Scheme (MCS)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;Modulation and Coding Scheme (MCS) is the quality of the radio channel, and thus the bit rate and robustness of data transmission. The process of link adaptation is a dynamic one and the signal and protocol parameters change as the radio link conditions change.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2020 23:23:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Christopher_Fra</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-10-02T23:23:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Recommended data rates on 2,4 and 5GHz in an office</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/recommended-data-rates-on-2-4-and-5ghz-in-an-office/m-p/69748#M6302</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What are the recommended data rates to set up on WING for best performance and quality?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;enviroment: office&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;AP density: up to 15&amp;nbsp;AP per floor&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;client density: up to 10 clients per AP&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;client type: mostly PCs and Laptops with Win 7,8 an 10, couple of smart phones (iPhone, Android etc) and TVs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;At the moment I have default values:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;FIGURE&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_eadc70a8-cb76-4327-969f-4277a6ddfcb3.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/3651i6A9CF0B6F6BF542F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_eadc70a8-cb76-4327-969f-4277a6ddfcb3.png" alt="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_eadc70a8-cb76-4327-969f-4277a6ddfcb3.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/FIGURE&gt;&lt;FIGURE&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_070cd08d-2de0-4db2-a337-b2ef3cbd116f.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/3945iC84E4228CE2E6D0D/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_070cd08d-2de0-4db2-a337-b2ef3cbd116f.png" alt="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_070cd08d-2de0-4db2-a337-b2ef3cbd116f.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/FIGURE&gt;&lt;P&gt;But maybe&amp;nbsp;I should change to this:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;FIGURE&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_0aca9037-ffde-42e8-8f23-dff8feb7d0d1.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/5675i400B9B13193B62C7/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_0aca9037-ffde-42e8-8f23-dff8feb7d0d1.png" alt="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_0aca9037-ffde-42e8-8f23-dff8feb7d0d1.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/FIGURE&gt;&lt;FIGURE&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_e5557aa9-299f-46c0-8e5b-8bf921ffaef4.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/745iD3CACD5358C2D939/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_e5557aa9-299f-46c0-8e5b-8bf921ffaef4.png" alt="3d9ab2a5727b44f69419df3e0f58f1ef_e5557aa9-299f-46c0-8e5b-8bf921ffaef4.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/FIGURE&gt;&lt;P&gt;By the way. What is the differnce between “basic”&amp;nbsp;nad “supported” type of data rate?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best Regards&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2020 21:08:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/recommended-data-rates-on-2-4-and-5ghz-in-an-office/m-p/69748#M6302</guid>
      <dc:creator>el_magneto</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-10-02T21:08:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Recommended data rates on 2,4 and 5GHz in an office</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/recommended-data-rates-on-2-4-and-5ghz-in-an-office/m-p/69749#M6303</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Magneto,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;I have attached a &lt;STRONG&gt;Wing Best Practices&lt;/STRONG&gt; document and please navigate to the “&lt;STRONG&gt;802.11 Data Rates&lt;/STRONG&gt;” page, which covers data-rates best practices for different deployments.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As for your inquiry regarding basic versus supported data-rates:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;1. Basic Rates&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;The Basic Rate Set contains the rates that all devices in the cell must support; it is a sub-set of the Transmit Rate Set. &amp;nbsp;All control, multicast, and broadcast packets are transmitted using one of the Basic Rates (as defined by the IEEE 802.11 standards).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;2. Supported Rates&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;With wireless networks, there are many supported speeds depending on the standard of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;the hardware in use. For example, an 802.11b compliant device supports 11, 5.5, 2, &amp;amp; 1Mbps speeds. This capability information is passed in the beacons to inform the stations&amp;nbsp;what speeds are supported on the access point.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;3. Modulation and Coding Scheme (MCS)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color:#333333;"&gt;Modulation and Coding Scheme (MCS) is the quality of the radio channel, and thus the bit rate and robustness of data transmission. The process of link adaptation is a dynamic one and the signal and protocol parameters change as the radio link conditions change.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2020 23:23:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/recommended-data-rates-on-2-4-and-5ghz-in-an-office/m-p/69749#M6303</guid>
      <dc:creator>Christopher_Fra</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-10-02T23:23:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Recommended data rates on 2,4 and 5GHz in an office</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/recommended-data-rates-on-2-4-and-5ghz-in-an-office/m-p/69750#M6304</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Why 802.11ax has no data reates to choose?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2020 16:26:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/recommended-data-rates-on-2-4-and-5ghz-in-an-office/m-p/69750#M6304</guid>
      <dc:creator>el_magneto</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-10-06T16:26:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Recommended data rates on 2,4 and 5GHz in an office</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/recommended-data-rates-on-2-4-and-5ghz-in-an-office/m-p/69751#M6305</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;el_magneto,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The higher data rates (above 54Mbps) are determined by several factors.&amp;nbsp; To actually list all of the possible rates in order to allow them to be used or not would fill up a large amount of interface space!...especially for 11ax.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://bit.ly/2G0DIcD" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener"&gt;Here &lt;/A&gt;is a list of the possible 11ax data rates.&amp;nbsp; As you can see, there’s no way to include all of these in the WiNG interface.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What can be controlled though in the WiNG interface are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Number of spatial streams&lt;/LI&gt;	&lt;LI&gt;Channel width&lt;/LI&gt;	&lt;LI&gt;Guard interval.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;The modulation type and coding rate are not user-configurable. (By any vendor)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So by configuring the number of spatial streams, channel width, and guard interval, you can determine what MCS data rates will be possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:54:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/extremewireless-wing/recommended-data-rates-on-2-4-and-5ghz-in-an-office/m-p/69751#M6305</guid>
      <dc:creator>ckelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-10-12T22:54:29Z</dc:date>
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