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    <title>topic Considerations for NetSight upgrade of SecureStacks in FAQs</title>
    <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/faqs/considerations-for-netsight-upgrade-of-securestacks/m-p/48135#M507</link>
    <description>Article ID: 7513 &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Products&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
SecureStack C3&lt;BR /&gt;
Firmware 1.00.37 and lower&lt;BR /&gt;
SecureStack C2&lt;BR /&gt;
Firmware 4.00.31 and lower&lt;BR /&gt;
SecureStack B3&lt;BR /&gt;
Firmware 1.00.31 and lower&lt;BR /&gt;
SecureStack B2&lt;BR /&gt;
Firmware 4.00.22 and lower&lt;BR /&gt;
SecureStack A2&lt;BR /&gt;
All firmware&lt;BR /&gt;
NetSight&lt;BR /&gt;
Atlas Console&lt;BR /&gt;
Inventory Manager &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Changes&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
Upgraded SecureStack firmware using NetSight &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Symptoms&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
Dir command shows wrong firmware version as Active and Boot&lt;BR /&gt;
Cannot select new firmware version&lt;BR /&gt;
Cannot delete new firmware version&lt;BR /&gt;
'set boot system'&lt;BR /&gt;
'show version'&lt;BR /&gt;
'dir'&lt;BR /&gt;
"BackTrace-software version incompatible with running software" &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Cause&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
Normally in the process of upgrading firmware, the 'set boot system' command (step 11 of the TFTP procedure in &lt;A href="http://bit.ly/WhsfvZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener"&gt;5605&lt;/A&gt;) is used to select the new firmware file for next boot and the system reboots onto it. It is typically not expected that a file will have been selected for the next boot but the reboot process has not yet occurred. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Upgrading via NetSight Atlas Console or Inventory Manager, it is possible to select the new firmware file for next boot, &lt;I&gt;without&lt;/I&gt; triggering an immediate reboot. If this is done, be aware that with older firmware the SecureStack's file directory management software is set up to consider a firmware file Active whenever it has been selected as the new Boot image - even though that image may not be what is presently running on the system. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
With &lt;U&gt;older SecureStack firmware versions&lt;/U&gt;, this leaves the system in a state where&lt;UL&gt; 
&lt;LI&gt;a 'show version' correctly describes the newly-selected image as BuFw (backup firmware); 
&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;a 'dir' incorrectly describes the newly-selected image as Active; 
&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;it is not possible to again select the new firmware version (because it is already Active); 
&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;it is not possible to delete the new firmware version (because it is Active); and 
&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;it is possible to delete the file directory copy of the currently-running-in-DRAM firmware version (because it is no longer considered Active).&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;
Here is an example cli session executed after NetSight was used to upgrade a SecureStack C2 from firmware version 3.03.33 to 4.00.24:  C2(su)-&amp;gt;set boot system c2-series_04.00.24&lt;BR /&gt;
 Error: invalid image specified &lt;BR /&gt;
 C2(su)-&amp;gt;delete c2-series_04.00.24&lt;BR /&gt;
 Failed to remove c2-series_04.00.24&lt;BR /&gt;
 C2(su)-&amp;gt;show version&lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Copyright (c) 2005 by Enterasys Networks, Inc. &lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
  Model Serial # Versions &lt;BR /&gt;
 --------------  -----------------  ------------------- &lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
 C2G124-48         04430076900C      Hw:BCM5695 REV 17 &lt;BR /&gt;
                                     Bp:01.00.29 &lt;BR /&gt;
                                     Fw:03.03.33 &lt;BR /&gt;
                                     BuFw:04.00.24 &lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
 C2(su)-&amp;gt;dir&lt;BR /&gt;
 Images: &lt;BR /&gt;
 ================================================================== &lt;BR /&gt;
 Filename:      c2-series_03.03.33 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Version:       03.03.33 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Size:          6066176 (bytes) &lt;BR /&gt;
 Date:          Tue Apr 4 11:03:56 2006 &lt;BR /&gt;
 CheckSum:      fa43940117f1519b54a3263fa5402074 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Compatibility: C2G124-24, C2G124-48, C2H124-48, C2G124-48P, C2H124-48P &lt;BR /&gt;
                C2K122-24, C2G170-24, C2G134-24P &lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Filename:      c2-series_04.00.24 (Active) (Boot) &lt;BR /&gt;
 Version:       04.00.24 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Size:          6254592 (bytes) &lt;BR /&gt;
 Date:          Mon Jul 10 13:29:10 2006 &lt;BR /&gt;
 CheckSum:      00892c418c4ae418bfc31ea8fe582ce0 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Compatibility: C2G124-24, C2G124-48, C2H124-48, C2G124-48P, C2H124-48P &lt;BR /&gt;
                C2K122-24, C2G170-24, C2G134-24P&lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Files:                           Size&lt;BR /&gt;
 ================================ ========&lt;BR /&gt;
 configs:&lt;BR /&gt;
 my.cfg                           4197&lt;BR /&gt;
 logs:&lt;BR /&gt;
 current.log                      178705&lt;BR /&gt;
 C2(su)-&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
There is a further possible issue resulting from a no-reboot stack upgrade: If one or more units are rebooted for any reason but at least one unit remains unrebooted, the stack firmware versions will be out of sync and a "BackTrace-software version incompatible with running software" error will indicate this in the current.log (&lt;A href="http://bit.ly/1pOU3VK" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener"&gt;5487&lt;/A&gt;). &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
See also: &lt;A href="http://bit.ly/1bSkW2j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener"&gt;5455&lt;/A&gt;. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Solution&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
For the C3, upgrade to firmware 1.00.40 or higher.&lt;BR /&gt;
For the C2, upgrade to firmware 4.00.37 or higher.&lt;BR /&gt;
For the B3, upgrade to firmware 1.00.34 or higher.&lt;BR /&gt;
For the B2, upgrade to firmware 4.00.26 or higher.&lt;BR /&gt;
For the A2, to be corrected in a future firmware release. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Firmware release notes state: &lt;BR /&gt;
"The output of the 'dir' command will display the active and backup image loaded on the device when they are loaded via the CLI or SNMP." &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
What this means is that the old, currently-running image is now properly described as Active. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Post-upgrade, the remaining possibility of a "BackTrace-software version incompatible with running software" error condition is considered to be FAD (Functions as Designed). Regardless of SecureStack firmware version, a NetSight-invoked upgrade can by design still leave the stack unrebooted. This is not a problem per se, but it is useful to be aware of the possibility. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
This &lt;B&gt;workaround&lt;/B&gt; applies to both older and newer firmware versions, after a no-reboot upgrade and either before or after the reboot of a subset of the stack units:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;UL&gt; 
&lt;LI&gt;To bring the full stack up using the already-selected firmware, reboot the switch units that have not been rebooted since upgrade - or reboot all switches if you are not sure.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;       C2(su)-&amp;gt;reset&lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
       Are you sure you want to reload the stack? (y/n) y&lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
       Saving Configuration to stacking members&lt;BR /&gt;
       Reloading all switches.        -or-&lt;UL&gt; 
&lt;LI&gt;Negate NetSight's selection of the new firmware file by re-selecting the original firmware file ('set boot system &amp;lt;&lt;I&gt;filename&lt;/I&gt;&amp;gt;' - which will also trigger a stack reboot.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;
Note: With later SecureStack firmware, NetSight's ability to defer the post-upgrade system reboot is brought to the CLI as well. See &lt;A href="http://bit.ly/1ayjlhu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener"&gt;12399&lt;/A&gt; for more about that.</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2013 01:52:00 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>FAQ_User</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-11-22T01:52:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Considerations for NetSight upgrade of SecureStacks</title>
      <link>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/faqs/considerations-for-netsight-upgrade-of-securestacks/m-p/48135#M507</link>
      <description>Article ID: 7513 &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Products&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
SecureStack C3&lt;BR /&gt;
Firmware 1.00.37 and lower&lt;BR /&gt;
SecureStack C2&lt;BR /&gt;
Firmware 4.00.31 and lower&lt;BR /&gt;
SecureStack B3&lt;BR /&gt;
Firmware 1.00.31 and lower&lt;BR /&gt;
SecureStack B2&lt;BR /&gt;
Firmware 4.00.22 and lower&lt;BR /&gt;
SecureStack A2&lt;BR /&gt;
All firmware&lt;BR /&gt;
NetSight&lt;BR /&gt;
Atlas Console&lt;BR /&gt;
Inventory Manager &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Changes&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
Upgraded SecureStack firmware using NetSight &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Symptoms&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
Dir command shows wrong firmware version as Active and Boot&lt;BR /&gt;
Cannot select new firmware version&lt;BR /&gt;
Cannot delete new firmware version&lt;BR /&gt;
'set boot system'&lt;BR /&gt;
'show version'&lt;BR /&gt;
'dir'&lt;BR /&gt;
"BackTrace-software version incompatible with running software" &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Cause&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
Normally in the process of upgrading firmware, the 'set boot system' command (step 11 of the TFTP procedure in &lt;A href="http://bit.ly/WhsfvZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener"&gt;5605&lt;/A&gt;) is used to select the new firmware file for next boot and the system reboots onto it. It is typically not expected that a file will have been selected for the next boot but the reboot process has not yet occurred. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Upgrading via NetSight Atlas Console or Inventory Manager, it is possible to select the new firmware file for next boot, &lt;I&gt;without&lt;/I&gt; triggering an immediate reboot. If this is done, be aware that with older firmware the SecureStack's file directory management software is set up to consider a firmware file Active whenever it has been selected as the new Boot image - even though that image may not be what is presently running on the system. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
With &lt;U&gt;older SecureStack firmware versions&lt;/U&gt;, this leaves the system in a state where&lt;UL&gt; 
&lt;LI&gt;a 'show version' correctly describes the newly-selected image as BuFw (backup firmware); 
&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;a 'dir' incorrectly describes the newly-selected image as Active; 
&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;it is not possible to again select the new firmware version (because it is already Active); 
&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;it is not possible to delete the new firmware version (because it is Active); and 
&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;it is possible to delete the file directory copy of the currently-running-in-DRAM firmware version (because it is no longer considered Active).&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;
Here is an example cli session executed after NetSight was used to upgrade a SecureStack C2 from firmware version 3.03.33 to 4.00.24:  C2(su)-&amp;gt;set boot system c2-series_04.00.24&lt;BR /&gt;
 Error: invalid image specified &lt;BR /&gt;
 C2(su)-&amp;gt;delete c2-series_04.00.24&lt;BR /&gt;
 Failed to remove c2-series_04.00.24&lt;BR /&gt;
 C2(su)-&amp;gt;show version&lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Copyright (c) 2005 by Enterasys Networks, Inc. &lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
  Model Serial # Versions &lt;BR /&gt;
 --------------  -----------------  ------------------- &lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
 C2G124-48         04430076900C      Hw:BCM5695 REV 17 &lt;BR /&gt;
                                     Bp:01.00.29 &lt;BR /&gt;
                                     Fw:03.03.33 &lt;BR /&gt;
                                     BuFw:04.00.24 &lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
 C2(su)-&amp;gt;dir&lt;BR /&gt;
 Images: &lt;BR /&gt;
 ================================================================== &lt;BR /&gt;
 Filename:      c2-series_03.03.33 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Version:       03.03.33 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Size:          6066176 (bytes) &lt;BR /&gt;
 Date:          Tue Apr 4 11:03:56 2006 &lt;BR /&gt;
 CheckSum:      fa43940117f1519b54a3263fa5402074 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Compatibility: C2G124-24, C2G124-48, C2H124-48, C2G124-48P, C2H124-48P &lt;BR /&gt;
                C2K122-24, C2G170-24, C2G134-24P &lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Filename:      c2-series_04.00.24 (Active) (Boot) &lt;BR /&gt;
 Version:       04.00.24 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Size:          6254592 (bytes) &lt;BR /&gt;
 Date:          Mon Jul 10 13:29:10 2006 &lt;BR /&gt;
 CheckSum:      00892c418c4ae418bfc31ea8fe582ce0 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Compatibility: C2G124-24, C2G124-48, C2H124-48, C2G124-48P, C2H124-48P &lt;BR /&gt;
                C2K122-24, C2G170-24, C2G134-24P&lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
 Files:                           Size&lt;BR /&gt;
 ================================ ========&lt;BR /&gt;
 configs:&lt;BR /&gt;
 my.cfg                           4197&lt;BR /&gt;
 logs:&lt;BR /&gt;
 current.log                      178705&lt;BR /&gt;
 C2(su)-&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
There is a further possible issue resulting from a no-reboot stack upgrade: If one or more units are rebooted for any reason but at least one unit remains unrebooted, the stack firmware versions will be out of sync and a "BackTrace-software version incompatible with running software" error will indicate this in the current.log (&lt;A href="http://bit.ly/1pOU3VK" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener"&gt;5487&lt;/A&gt;). &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
See also: &lt;A href="http://bit.ly/1bSkW2j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener"&gt;5455&lt;/A&gt;. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Solution&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
For the C3, upgrade to firmware 1.00.40 or higher.&lt;BR /&gt;
For the C2, upgrade to firmware 4.00.37 or higher.&lt;BR /&gt;
For the B3, upgrade to firmware 1.00.34 or higher.&lt;BR /&gt;
For the B2, upgrade to firmware 4.00.26 or higher.&lt;BR /&gt;
For the A2, to be corrected in a future firmware release. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Firmware release notes state: &lt;BR /&gt;
"The output of the 'dir' command will display the active and backup image loaded on the device when they are loaded via the CLI or SNMP." &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
What this means is that the old, currently-running image is now properly described as Active. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Post-upgrade, the remaining possibility of a "BackTrace-software version incompatible with running software" error condition is considered to be FAD (Functions as Designed). Regardless of SecureStack firmware version, a NetSight-invoked upgrade can by design still leave the stack unrebooted. This is not a problem per se, but it is useful to be aware of the possibility. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
This &lt;B&gt;workaround&lt;/B&gt; applies to both older and newer firmware versions, after a no-reboot upgrade and either before or after the reboot of a subset of the stack units:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;UL&gt; 
&lt;LI&gt;To bring the full stack up using the already-selected firmware, reboot the switch units that have not been rebooted since upgrade - or reboot all switches if you are not sure.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;       C2(su)-&amp;gt;reset&lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
       Are you sure you want to reload the stack? (y/n) y&lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
       Saving Configuration to stacking members&lt;BR /&gt;
       Reloading all switches.        -or-&lt;UL&gt; 
&lt;LI&gt;Negate NetSight's selection of the new firmware file by re-selecting the original firmware file ('set boot system &amp;lt;&lt;I&gt;filename&lt;/I&gt;&amp;gt;' - which will also trigger a stack reboot.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;
Note: With later SecureStack firmware, NetSight's ability to defer the post-upgrade system reboot is brought to the CLI as well. See &lt;A href="http://bit.ly/1ayjlhu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener"&gt;12399&lt;/A&gt; for more about that.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2013 01:52:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.extremenetworks.com/t5/faqs/considerations-for-netsight-upgrade-of-securestacks/m-p/48135#M507</guid>
      <dc:creator>FAQ_User</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-11-22T01:52:00Z</dc:date>
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