Questions about Aerohive management

[klui]

I'm coming from Ruckus Unleashed, trying out some Aerohive APs but have some questions.

1. On Ruckus I can have a set of APs and they can all be managed through a single management IP even though I can ssh into each AP. Is it possible to do the same thing for Aerohive APs running under 10.8? I currently only have 1 AP installed. Will stats be shown for the entire hive or for that AP only?
2. If I want to have other APs working in the same hive, would I just copy the relevant settings to the others and not change AP-specific settings like IP address and hostname, then connect the AP into a port with the same trunk definitions?
3. When I configured the AP under the free CloudIQ account the default performance was limited to around 200 Mbps. It wasn't until I removed 11b, 11g, and 11a phymodes from the 5G radio profile, enabled band-steering, and set channel-width to 80 before I could get 700 Mbps. I'm currently using the gigabit eth1 port so understand ~700 Mbps is the best for my client (iPhone 12). On Ruckus no such tuning was necessary and standards compatibility was selected instead of performance. Is there something I've missed on Aerohive?
4. Is there any configuration required for optimizing WiFi calling? There are specific levers on Unleashed for the major providers. On CloudIQ, under my SSIDs' Optional Settings there are 802.11[kvr] under Custom in Voice Enterprise but they are unchecked by default.
5. The CloudIQ shows applications. It's easy to extract applications reporting app-stats then correlate that with 'application reporting applications' to get the overall usage, but where is the client information kept in the CLI? For example, CloudIQ shows Youtube along with total number of clients and users but app-stats only shows the app ID and aggregate packages and bytes.
6. CloudIQ has configuration for SSID manageability like SSH, ping, Telnet, and SNMP under their Optional Settings's Traffic Filters. Only SSH, Ping, and Inter-station Traffic are checked. How does one manage SSID through SNMP? I enabled interface eth1 manage SNMP and was able to preform an snmpwalk on the AP's IP address, but no such setting exists in CloudIQ for eth0/eth1. Playing around with CloudIQ it seems the traffic filters cause ssid <SSID> manage SNMP to be configured. How does that work?

Thanks for any advice.

[klui · Accepted solution]

I've been playing around with a couple of APs for the past week and have some answers.

1. There is no single management IP besides ExtremeCloud IQ. Stats shown in each AP's CLI is local to that device.
2. Use ExtremeCloud IQ to adopt it through entering its serial number. I don't think plugging an AP in the same trunk would do it because the gatekeeping would be done on ExtremeCloud IQ.
3. I hadn't realize ExtremeCloud IQ's interface for Radio Profiles allows an admin to select channel width in Channel Selection, Channel Width and Exclusions. The base configuration tends to associate with the 2g band but a more capable device will be steered to the 5g band.
4. Per some posts here and in XIQ, there are some levers in QoS but typically there are no deep configuration like in Ruckus.
5. Didn't find any solutions for this Q.
6. Didn't find any solutions for this but my guess is managing SNMP through the SSID wirelessly or Hive would probably not be a good idea and the capability should be left to the physical interface. Removing manage SNMP from policy traffic filter and SSID traffic filter don't prevent an NMS from obtaining SNMP telemetry.
   • Network Policies > <policy name> > Traffic Filter (Hive <hive> manage SNMP) should have SNMP disabled
   • Network Policies > <policy name> > Wireless Networks > <SSID> > Optional Settings [CUSTOMIZE] > Traffic Filters (ssid <SSID> manage SNMP) should have SNMP disabled
   • Create a copy of an AP template and add a new Port Type for each wired interface and enable SNMP in Traffic Filter Management. The interface is not done very well here. If the window is too short Traffic Filter Management will be visible after the Edit icon is clicked. The interface doesn't bring the port to the frame and it would seem like the Edit does nothing.

[PatrickC]

Hello Klui,

My name is Patrick and I'm an Associate Technical Support with Extreme Networks.

1. No, there is no single management IP. Each device will have it's own IP address and management is done through the ExtremeCloudIQ Portal.

2. All devices need to be onboarded via serial number to be configured by your XIQ instance.

3. There are different radio profiles for 2.4ghz and 5ghz. There are settings to encourage or enforce 5g usage, if that's desired. By default it will attempt to connect on the 5ghz network and will fall back to the 2.4ghz if it cannot connect on 5g.

4. There are settings specific to VOIP. Enabling 802.11k will assist in faster roaming, which would assist in limited interruptions in phone service. There are also settings in the Radio Profiles that can enhance VOIP, if there is an issue.

5. What exact data are you looking for?

6. In XIQ, the SNMP setup is done almost entirely on the AP or AP Template. Once the SNMP is set up, you will have to push an update out to the APs in order to add it to the running configuration. In the SSID, the only thing to make sure is that you Enable Interstation-Traffic (set by default as enabled). The instructions to set up SNMP are located here: https://extreme-networks.my.site.com/ExtrArticleDetail?an=000093080

If you have a support contract with Extreme Networks, my recommendation would be to contact GTAC Support (https://www.extremenetworks.com/support/contact) and open a case. That way an engineer will work directly with you to make sure all of your questions are answered.

[klui]

Thanks for your reply!

What I'm looking for in my 5th question is if there is any way to obtain the clients who have used a particular application from the CLI. I'm trying to determine what ExtremeCloud IQ features have "equivalent" functionality in the CLI. This feature is probably a cloud-based feature where real time telemetry is accumulated; however I would expect the CLI to show what clients are using an application Youtube, UDP, HTTPS, etc. between their transmissions.