What is the network requirements for SCADA systems communications?
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‎08-24-2017 07:10 PM
We are deploying a multi-ring network using 100+ X440 and one BD 8806.
from Core to any location we are having less than 15ms delay, but still the guys from SCADA system complaining that it's too much for their system, So I need a reference for the network requirements of SCADA systems. any advice?
Regards
Yusuf
from Core to any location we are having less than 15ms delay, but still the guys from SCADA system complaining that it's too much for their system, So I need a reference for the network requirements of SCADA systems. any advice?
Regards
Yusuf
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‎09-25-2017 05:52 AM
Hi Yusuf,
Your SCADUH guys are obviously unaware of the laws of physics. Usually the slowest thing on a SCADA network is their unpatched servers.
So if u have eliminated 90% of latency (what's a couple of milliseconds between PLCs/RTUs) u need to educate (re the speed of light thing) and get them tuning the app.
Do note that an architecture with minimal firewall traversal does help (eg one at the headend and a security oriented network fabric like mac in mac).
i have similar 15ms latency to (interstate) parts of the network and these (see link) guys look like they r running in AWS https://medium.com/aws-enterprise-collection/reborn-in-the-cloud-talen-energy-s-journey-to-the-cloud... so i'd expect similar unless they're on top of an AWS campus
some latency commentary in here
http://trilliantinc.com/library-files/media/WP_Comms-for-DA.pdf
and a case study with latency issues
https://library.e.abb.com/public/8fe715f52164b564c1257c050041522c/008_Communication_en.pdf
IB
Your SCADUH guys are obviously unaware of the laws of physics. Usually the slowest thing on a SCADA network is their unpatched servers.
So if u have eliminated 90% of latency (what's a couple of milliseconds between PLCs/RTUs) u need to educate (re the speed of light thing) and get them tuning the app.
Do note that an architecture with minimal firewall traversal does help (eg one at the headend and a security oriented network fabric like mac in mac).
i have similar 15ms latency to (interstate) parts of the network and these (see link) guys look like they r running in AWS https://medium.com/aws-enterprise-collection/reborn-in-the-cloud-talen-energy-s-journey-to-the-cloud... so i'd expect similar unless they're on top of an AWS campus
some latency commentary in here
http://trilliantinc.com/library-files/media/WP_Comms-for-DA.pdf
and a case study with latency issues
https://library.e.abb.com/public/8fe715f52164b564c1257c050041522c/008_Communication_en.pdf
IB
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‎08-28-2017 04:10 AM
Hello, Yusuf!
As I know - there is no any requirements for SCADA.
But you can use other technologies which are reduce delay - like QoS, DCBX, AVB etc.
Thank you!
As I know - there is no any requirements for SCADA.
But you can use other technologies which are reduce delay - like QoS, DCBX, AVB etc.
Thank you!
