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Some concepts about VC to be clarify.

Some concepts about VC to be clarify.

zlinuxboy
Contributor


I have two ap7522(a and b etc) and config dynamic VC on one of them. A was elect as VC, B was adopted to the VC. here is the questions:

  1. will ap A be adopted by VC too?
  2. may I refine the VC config on B and auto update the whole rf domain?
  3. If I ssh into B and set a static ip to it, after a while the ip just disappear.
    here is the context of vc:
    ---
    profile ap7522 default-ap7522
     ip name-server 221.176.88.95
     ip default-gateway 192.168.9.254
     autoinstall configuration
     autoinstall firmware
     crypto ikev1 policy ikev1-default
      isakmp-proposal default encryption aes-256 group 2 hash sha
     crypto ikev2 policy ikev2-default
      isakmp-proposal default encryption aes-256 group 2 hash sha
     crypto ipsec transform-set default esp-aes-256 esp-sha-hmac
     crypto ikev1 remote-vpn
     crypto ikev2 remote-vpn
     crypto auto-ipsec-secure
     crypto load-management
     crypto remote-vpn-client
     interface radio1
      wlan wing-hkxd bss 1 primary
     interface radio2
      wlan wing-hkxd bss 1 primary
     interface ge1
      switchport mode trunk
      switchport trunk allowed vlan 7-10
      switchport trunk native vlan 9
     interface vlan1
      ip address dhcp
      ip address zeroconf secondary
      ip dhcp client request options all
     interface vlan7
      description guestUser-vlan
     interface vlan8
      description homeUser-vlan
     interface vlan9
      description mgt-vlan
     interface vlan10
      description device-vlan
     interface pppoe1
     use firewall-policy default
     ntp server 0.pool.ntp.org
     use client-identity-group default
     virtual-controller auto
     virtual-controller management-interface ip address 192.168.9.140/24
     virtual-controller management-interface vlan 9
     rf-domain-manager capable
     logging on
     service pm sys-restart
     router ospf
     adoption-mode controller
    ---
    Any hints? thanks in advanced.

 

  1. both of them have a mint links to A

ap7522-A2DA54#show mint links
2 mint links on 75.A2.DA.54:
link vlan-7 at level 1, 1 adjacencies, DIS 75.A2.DA.54 (self)
link vlan-9 at level 1, 1 adjacencies, DIS 75.A1.AE.58

why A link to itself through vlan 7, what exactly purpose link itself with mint?

 

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Christoph_S
Extreme Employee

To answer your question: AP “A” will not adopt to itself. 

 

Here’s some info on priority election:

 

Election priority is determined in one of 3 ways:

  1. Lowest Mint-ID (Only If all APs are similar). Nothing needs to be configured in this case
  2. Highest model (For heterogeneous deployments). Nothing needs to be configured in this case.
  3. RF-domain manager priority: This should be configured as an override on each AP in the redundancy pool. This allows you to control which AP is next in line to become the Virtual controller should the current one fail. Still on the AP to be designated as the primary VC go to Configuration >> Devices >> Device Overrides >> Select the AP >> Edit >> Profile Overrides >> General >> RF Domain Manager >> Priority >> Check the box >> Enter 255 >> OK >> Commit and Save.

This AP will become the designated primary virtual controller which should start adopting all other APs.

Once done, configure the priority on the rest of the APs selected to be in the redundancy pool by going to Configuration >> Devices >> Device Overrides >> select AP >> Edit >> Profile Overrides >> RF Domain Manager >> Priority >> Check the box >> Enter 254 >> OK >> Commit and Save. Repeat these steps on all APs in the redundancy pool, decreasing the priority on each accordingly.

 

In other words, there is no automated way to keep a newly elected AP (after initial AP goes down) as VC if another AP with a lower mint ID was added. You can set rf domain manager priority so that if the AP that goes down is replaced (RMA’d), you can set a lower RFDM priority on the new AP so that the current VC AP is not switched. 

 

I hope this makes sense. 

 

Thank you,

Christoph S.

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zlinuxboy
Contributor

@Chris Kelly 

well, I would like to seperate clients onto different vlan, such vip on vlan 8, normal on vlan 7 and guest on vlan 10.
Any possible to impement these vlan map within wing? The aerohive's ppsk user group could do this elegent. 

ckelly
Extreme Employee

Ahh, I see. Answer is still no. When an AP is operating as a VC, it’s as if it’s actually a regular WiNG controllers (with some caveats). So in the same way that a controller doesn’t adopt itself, same for a VC. Although, unlike a regular controller, a VC AP still operates as an AP (has wlans operating on it)

 

I see that on this AP’s config you have only 1 single wlan mapped to the radios. But, you have created SVIs for 4 VLANs (7-10). Any reason for that?  Also, you don’t need to create those SVIs for the wlans. Just create the trunked ge1 interface and specifiy whichever VLANs are used by any mapped wlans.  So, whichever VLAN that wlan “wing-hkxd” is using, that is the only VLAN you need to list in the allowed VLANs. Or, if you are planning to add additional wlans (assigned to other VLANs) then also add those VLANs to the allowed list. Or, if you are planning to run DHCP services on the VC for those other VLANs, then you would also need those SVIs.

 

interface radio1
  wlan wing-hkxd bss 1 primary
 interface radio2
  wlan wing-hkxd bss 1 primary

 

interface ge1
  switchport mode trunk
  switchport trunk allowed vlan 7-10
  switchport trunk native vlan 9

 

 

Missed #4

I’m guessing here that the mint ID 75.A1.AE.58 belongs to the other 7522 that is adopted. The second listing is simply indicating an adjacency using a Layer-2 (“link vlan-7”) level-1 MINT link to that AP. This is happening over VLAN-9 (the native VLAN according to your config).

The other MINT link on vlan-7 is for the AP it(self). You will see this for each type of entry for each WiNG device.  Not sure why it’s vlan-7 though. Do you have something entered in the device override section concerning VLANs? (that section wasn’t included in your config posting)

 

Christoph_S
Extreme Employee

To answer your question: AP “A” will not adopt to itself. 

 

Here’s some info on priority election:

 

Election priority is determined in one of 3 ways:

  1. Lowest Mint-ID (Only If all APs are similar). Nothing needs to be configured in this case
  2. Highest model (For heterogeneous deployments). Nothing needs to be configured in this case.
  3. RF-domain manager priority: This should be configured as an override on each AP in the redundancy pool. This allows you to control which AP is next in line to become the Virtual controller should the current one fail. Still on the AP to be designated as the primary VC go to Configuration >> Devices >> Device Overrides >> Select the AP >> Edit >> Profile Overrides >> General >> RF Domain Manager >> Priority >> Check the box >> Enter 255 >> OK >> Commit and Save.

This AP will become the designated primary virtual controller which should start adopting all other APs.

Once done, configure the priority on the rest of the APs selected to be in the redundancy pool by going to Configuration >> Devices >> Device Overrides >> select AP >> Edit >> Profile Overrides >> RF Domain Manager >> Priority >> Check the box >> Enter 254 >> OK >> Commit and Save. Repeat these steps on all APs in the redundancy pool, decreasing the priority on each accordingly.

 

In other words, there is no automated way to keep a newly elected AP (after initial AP goes down) as VC if another AP with a lower mint ID was added. You can set rf domain manager priority so that if the AP that goes down is replaced (RMA’d), you can set a lower RFDM priority on the new AP so that the current VC AP is not switched. 

 

I hope this makes sense. 

 

Thank you,

Christoph S.

zlinuxboy
Contributor

well the question 1 I mean when A was elected as VC, will A be adopted to A(VC) itself, I know it’s weird question, but I want to know that. 🙂

 

thanks @Chris Kelly , there is question 4 unanswered yet.da2be91463dc40beba09ef3cf17d4e3c_1f600.png

 

oh, I just find out that when unplug A, B will elect itself as VC, but when A come back, the VC role will migrated from B to A immediately. Any possible to keep B as VC role until it failed, Afterall both A and B are the same type AP7522. Is there any impact on the rf-domain when the VC role migrating between APs?

ckelly
Extreme Employee

1. will ap A be adopted by VC too?

  • No. If A is the VC, then it will not adopt to another VC.

2. may I refine the VC config on B and auto update the whole rf domain?

  • Refer to #3. short answer, once an AP is adopted to a VC, you make all changes using the VC (as if it were an actual WiNG controller). Don’t touch the AP configs directly. let the controller or VC do that.

3. If I ssh into B and set a static ip to it, after a while the ip just disappear.

  • If B is adopted to A(VC), then A is maintaining B’s config. In this way, any changes to an adopted AP should only be performed on the controller/VC device. What is probably happening here is that you make the change on B, but then A(VC) is simply correcting it, since it has what is supposed to be the correct config for B.
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