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‎02-02-2017 07:35 AM
Hi Community
So I have a question for the community and would like to get your comments on the topic.
I have been deploying the solution for years now (From when Enterasys started with the product).
When I do the initial configuration of the controller, I usually configure the AP's default settings to Auto select the Channel for both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz.
With the various code releases "Dynamic Channel Selection" was introduced, some version setting this to Monitor only and other version setting this to Active Mode by default.
The question I have is that at most of the deployments across the years I have seen that the AP's would all place their channels on both the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz on the same channel.
I usually end up with statically assigning Channels to avoid the same channel selection.
I understand that I might have outside interference cause all the AP's to try and hog the same channel.... But I have seen other systems deployed in the same space and the channel selection was perfect, every AP on it own unique channel.
What have you experienced on this, lets discuss your experience regarding this matter and your recommendations.
Regards
So I have a question for the community and would like to get your comments on the topic.
I have been deploying the solution for years now (From when Enterasys started with the product).
When I do the initial configuration of the controller, I usually configure the AP's default settings to Auto select the Channel for both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz.
With the various code releases "Dynamic Channel Selection" was introduced, some version setting this to Monitor only and other version setting this to Active Mode by default.
The question I have is that at most of the deployments across the years I have seen that the AP's would all place their channels on both the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz on the same channel.
I usually end up with statically assigning Channels to avoid the same channel selection.
I understand that I might have outside interference cause all the AP's to try and hog the same channel.... But I have seen other systems deployed in the same space and the channel selection was perfect, every AP on it own unique channel.
What have you experienced on this, lets discuss your experience regarding this matter and your recommendations.
Regards
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‎02-02-2017 01:45 PM
Personally we've stayed clear of Active DCS. In the older 9.x track, about 2 years ago, we had a lot of issues with AP's rebooting due to DCS being in active mode. Recently on the 10.x release, DCS wasn't reporting correct threshold numbers, which was fixed in 10.11.05.
I would love for DCS and auto tx to work flawlessly, as micro managing channels consumes more time than I would like. Now that the firmware we are on seems stable, it might be time for me to re-visit DCS functionality.
I've also run into the same thing where Auto channel selection chooses the same channel across AP's, but i never knew that manually running ACS was recommended after boot. That's really good to know and i'll have to play with it at some point.
I'm also interested to hear from anyone who is successfully using Active DCS and what thresholds they are using, specifically in a dense urban environment.
I would love for DCS and auto tx to work flawlessly, as micro managing channels consumes more time than I would like. Now that the firmware we are on seems stable, it might be time for me to re-visit DCS functionality.
I've also run into the same thing where Auto channel selection chooses the same channel across AP's, but i never knew that manually running ACS was recommended after boot. That's really good to know and i'll have to play with it at some point.
I'm also interested to hear from anyone who is successfully using Active DCS and what thresholds they are using, specifically in a dense urban environment.
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‎02-02-2017 08:22 AM
From my experience if you turn on all APs at the same time they will end up on the same (first) channel (=DCS in monitor mode).
So if you see all using 36 you'd need to force ACS again = multiedit all APs to channel auto.
ACS only runs turing the first time the AP comes up or if you force it with channel=auto.
There is document somewhere that tells you to force ACS as soon as all APs are on during a new deployment.
So if you see all using 36 you'd need to force ACS again = multiedit all APs to channel auto.
ACS only runs turing the first time the AP comes up or if you force it with channel=auto.
There is document somewhere that tells you to force ACS as soon as all APs are on during a new deployment.
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‎02-02-2017 08:22 AM
Hi Ron,
i this a argument to use or to disuse ACS? Are the channels spreaded in a good way all over?
Here are a GTAC Article that helps understanding ACS:
https://extremeportal.force.com/ExtrArticleDetail?n=000001149&q=How%20to%20configure%20APs%20to%...
i this a argument to use or to disuse ACS? Are the channels spreaded in a good way all over?
Here are a GTAC Article that helps understanding ACS:
https://extremeportal.force.com/ExtrArticleDetail?n=000001149&q=How%20to%20configure%20APs%20to%...
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‎02-02-2017 08:22 AM
I agree with this. If you power up all the AP's at the same time, then you run into this issue. I have had good luck doing one AP at a time and having them select proper channels. It is a lot more time intensive, but it results in better channel selection with minimal Co-Channel Interference.
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‎02-02-2017 08:21 AM
Hi,
We don't use the active mode. All radio's are in monitor.
We manually create our channel plan and adjust where necessary with auto channel select.
Also we monitor the dcs threshold and noise values through snmp.
This is a good guide for initial setup but like you my experience that dcs active mode is also not so good:
https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/articles/How_To/How-to-configure-APs-to-Channel-Select-to-...
Frank
We don't use the active mode. All radio's are in monitor.
We manually create our channel plan and adjust where necessary with auto channel select.
Also we monitor the dcs threshold and noise values through snmp.
This is a good guide for initial setup but like you my experience that dcs active mode is also not so good:
https://gtacknowledge.extremenetworks.com/articles/How_To/How-to-configure-APs-to-Channel-Select-to-...
Frank
